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MADD dad: Sobriety checks will save lives
The Oakland Press ^ | 2-24-05 | Hank Schaller

Posted on 02/24/2005 1:26:28 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

MADD dad: Sobriety checks will save lives

Web-posted Feb 24, 2005

By HANK SCHALLER
Of The Daily Oakland Press

Troy resident David Easterbrook will be far more than an interested observer in what may be the latest battle over the legality of sobriety checkpoints in Michigan. "It would be a long shot, but on the off chance that a sobriety checkpoint had been set up on Crooks Road, my daughter might be alive today," said Easterbrook, whose daughter, Ashley, 18, died June 3, 1997, when a drunken driver ran a red light at Long Lake and Crooks roads in Troy.

Two of Ashley's friends, Andrew Stindt, 19, and Michael Jamieson, 19, also were killed in the crash, as was the drunken driver.

"Sobriety checkpoints would just give police another tool in the bag when combating drinking and driving," said Easterbrook, who has become a national spokesman in the battle against drunken driving since his daughter's death. "I'm convinced they would save lives."

Easterbrook is an active member of MADD and founder of the Ashley Marie Easterbrook Foundation, which has raised funds to purchase billboard space for messages against drunken driving, awarded college scholarships and helped cover overtime costs of additional police patrols targeting drunken drivers.

It's been about 12 years since the legality of sobriety checkpoints in Oakland County and the rest of the state was bitterly contested before the Michigan and U.S. Supreme courts.

But the American Beverage Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based restaurant trade association, is now gearing up to battle Mothers Against Drunk Driving in what the institute says will be an all-out lobbying effort by MADD to legalize checkpoints in Michigan and other states.

However, in an ironic twist, MADD officials in Oakland County and Michigan wonder what all-out lobbying effort the beverage institute officials are talking about because legalizing checkpoints is not a priority here. Still, the political rhetoric is hot and heavy.

"By calling for increased roadblocks and PR campaigns, MADD is studiously ignoring the root cause of today's drunk driving problem - hard-core product abusers," said John Doyle, executive director of the beverage institute, which represents such major restaurant chains as Olive Garden, Outback Steakhouse, T.G.I. Friday's and Chili's Grill & Bar, which serve alcoholic beverages.

Doyle said MADD is pursuing tactics that target responsible adults, not drunken drivers.

"The experience shows that these measures (checkpoints) serve only to intimidate responsible adults and do little to save lives," he said.

However, there is no effort by MADD here to get sobriety checkpoints legalized in Michigan, said Homer Smith, executive director of MADD of Michigan, and Michele Compton, administrator of the Oakland County Chapter of MADD: "That's not one of our priorities.

"Getting sobriety checkpoints legalized in Michigan would require either a constitutional amendment or the Michigan Supreme Court changing its earlier ruling. That would be very hard for anyone to do."

Smith did say MADD, nationally, has made the legalization of sobriety checkpoints a goal. In fact, the national MADD Web site has a link where supporters can e-mail their state legislators and tell them they want the checkpoints.

MADD officials said that, if legalized, checkpoints would reduce alcohol-related traffic fatalities in Michigan.

"There's no doubt in my mind that sobriety checkpoints would be effective," Compton said.

Easterbrook was particularly interested in the effort by a trade group that represents T.G.I. Friday's to fight sobriety checkpoints since the driver who killed his daughter had been drinking at one of the restaurants before the fatal crash.

"I think I know why restaurant chains like Friday's are against sobriety checkpoints," said Easterbrook, whose family won a major settlement in a lawsuit against the restaurant chain. "A sobriety checkpoint would make their bartenders think about how much they are serving someone."

The debate over checkpoints goes back to the 1980s and 1990s, when Michigan was a battleground state in the fight to legalize them.

The prolonged legal battle, waged from 1986 to 1993, stemmed from the Michigan State Police operating a checkpoint for one night near Bridgeport in Saginaw County.

Arrests were then challenged in a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

After the case bounced between the Wayne County Circuit Court, Michigan Supreme Court and U.S. Supreme Court, the U.S. Supreme Court in a landmark 6-3 decision in June 1990 ruled in favor of sobriety checkpoints.

The court ruled that the privacy rights of motorists are not violated when police try to curb drunken driving by stopping them at sobriety checkpoints.

At the time, ACLU spokesman Howard Simon called the ruling a move "toward a police state."

The case was then sent back to the Michigan Supreme Court to change its decision, but the Michigan Supreme Court held, in 1993, that these checkpoints, if permissible under the U.S. Constitution, were not permissible under the Michigan State Constitution.

That's where the situation has remained.

In fact, beverage institute officials have already launched an effort to stop sobriety checkpoints in Texas, which, like Michigan, is one of 11 states that do not currently allow sobriety checkpoints. The other states are Alaska, Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

In an extensive public relations blitz, the institute cites a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration study that found:

"For chronic drunk drivers, checkpoints may not be very effective since these drivers ... have learned to alter their driving behavior to avoid detection."

The same study found targeted patrol programs, such as the "You Drink & Drive. You Lose" campaigns conducted both in Oakland County and throughout Michigan, in which federal grants are used to pay for overtime costs of police patrols targeting drunken drivers for arrest, are much more effective.

The study found such patrols result in three times the number of arrests made at checkpoints.

In response, MADD officials cite a 2001 study by The Centers for Disease Control that found that sobriety checkpoints can reduce alcohol-related crashes and fatalities by 20 percent.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: checkpoints; drinking; driving; madd
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I don't support checkpoints. That goes for SEATBELT checkpoints as well.

If you down a 12 pack, it will certainly show in your driving anyway and you should get busted for it. Checkpoints aren't needed for that.

1 posted on 02/24/2005 1:26:37 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
I know it's a slim chance, but if she were driving a heavily armored 3-ton vehicle, she would be alive today. Therefore, we should require by law that all vehicles be impervious to harm in collisions with other vehicles.

I don't need to put a tag on this, do I?

2 posted on 02/24/2005 1:29:13 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm not generally for any law which punishes law abiding citizens.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 1:30:14 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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I'm not generally for any law which punishes law abiding citizens

Well, a checkpoint isn't a law....and by stopping you're really not being punished, are you?

That being said, I think they're BS.

4 posted on 02/24/2005 1:32:44 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I don't support checkpoints. That goes for SEATBELT checkpoints as well. If you down a 12 pack, it will certainly show in your driving anyway and you should get busted for it. Checkpoints aren't needed for that.

I agree.

And I say that as a man whose first wife was put in a chair at age 16 by two sailors so drunk they couldn't walk-- but that didn't stop them from driving.

Too much regulation, too many fanatics.

5 posted on 02/24/2005 1:34:21 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Dan from Michigan

"ACLU spokesman Howard Simon called the ruling a move "toward a police state.""

I dont care to agree with the ACLU too often but they are spot on with this. If we have sobriety checkpoints, why not have checkpoints to search cars for drugs or illegal weapons. Soon we would be only free from molestation at the whim of the state.


6 posted on 02/24/2005 1:38:46 PM PST by free_european
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To: Puppage

"Well, a checkpoint isn't a law....and by stopping you're really not being punished, are you?"

it depends. if I have to spend an extra 30 minutes in traffic so they can run their checkpoint I am.
I'm also not a big fan of them having another reason to look into my car to try to decide if I "look" like I might be hiding something or an worthy of asset forfeiture. . .

That being said, I think they're BS too :-)


7 posted on 02/24/2005 1:40:27 PM PST by stompk
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To: Dan from Michigan
If she had stayed home, she might be alive today.

If it saves even one life, it's worth it.

EVERYBODY STAY HOME.

8 posted on 02/24/2005 1:41:01 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Sobriety checkpoints would just give police another tool in the bag when combating drinking and driving," said Easterbrook, who has become a national spokesman in the battle against drunken driving since his daughter's death. "I'm convinced they would save lives."

"Mandatory breathanalysis at all barroom exits would just give police another tool in the bag when combating drinking and driving," said Easterbrook, who has become a national spokesman in the battle against drunken driving since his daughter's death. "I'm convinced it would save lives."

"Reinstating Prohibition would just give police another tool in the bag when combating drinking and driving," said Easterbrook, who has become a national spokesman in the battle against drunken driving since his daughter's death. "I'm convinced it would save lives."

"Hiring one half of the population as police officers to individually monitor the other half of the population would just give police another tool in the bag when combating drinking and driving," said Easterbrook, who has become a national spokesman in the battle against drunken driving since his daughter's death. "I'm convinced it would save lives."

9 posted on 02/24/2005 1:42:12 PM PST by nyg4168
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To: stompk
I'm also not a big fan of them having another reason to look into my car

ABSOLUTELY!

I have always said there doesn't need to be yet,another reason for the cops to introduce themselves.

10 posted on 02/24/2005 1:42:40 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Enforce the law. Check points are crap.


11 posted on 02/24/2005 1:43:28 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Seat belt checkpoints, impossible! Here in California they swore that when the seat belt law was introduced, they could not stop you for not wearing seat belts. They could only ticket you if you were pulled over for something else.

You can see how well we can trust our legislators, can't we?
12 posted on 02/24/2005 1:44:28 PM PST by Lx (Tuesday is Soylent green day!)
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To: George Smiley

"EVERYBODY STAY HOME."

Actually, most accidents happen within a mile of home.

That's why I moved a mile away.


13 posted on 02/24/2005 1:44:42 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Dan from Michigan

Proud member of DAMM here: Drunks Against Mad Mothers.


14 posted on 02/24/2005 1:46:04 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Dan from Michigan
would just give police another tool

A dusk-to-dawn curfew would be a great tool for them, too. Maybe sidewalk pat downs, too.

If the life it saves might be mine, I'm willing to die for the cause.

15 posted on 02/24/2005 1:46:06 PM PST by Flyer (The contents of this information is for your exclusive use and should not be forum curran)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Roadblocks/checkpoints

Unconstitutional police action

Papers Please!

"Get on the train now!"

FMCDH(BITS)

16 posted on 02/24/2005 1:46:15 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: lugsoul
I don't need to put a tag on this, do I?

The </sarcasm> tag isn't needed, but perhaps a </I've got the balls to say what the rest of you are thinking> tag is in order.

17 posted on 02/24/2005 1:47:04 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: nyg4168

You said it for me. Thanks !


18 posted on 02/24/2005 1:47:49 PM PST by jimt
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To: Dan from Michigan
Two of Ashley's friends, Andrew Stindt, 19, and Michael Jamieson, 19, also were killed in the crash, as was the drunken driver.

And if the drunken driver had been publicly executed, after due process, we wouldn't be talking about increasing the size of the police state, would we?
19 posted on 02/24/2005 1:47:49 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: Dan from Michigan
For most of this nations history (in terms of the average persons understanding)the one person unfit to decide public policy was the one who was too emotionally involved to be dispassionate.

No more. Today, (in terms of the culturally corrupted average intellect) the one person most fitted to deciding questions of policy are the ones with a raging agenda.

30 years ago Mr. Easterbrook would have been rightfully dismissed as a grief stricken man with a mission.

Mr. Easterbrook is waving around his dead daughter to shut up anyone who would disagree with him.

The truth is we could save lives if we could do surprise checks of smoke alarm batteries or surprise checks of electrical appliances switched on in homes at night or when no one is home.

Lets do surprise checks of tire pressure. Nothing will throw a car out of control faster than an imbalance in pressure.
20 posted on 02/24/2005 1:51:53 PM PST by TalBlack
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