Renewing war on smoking in Jersey

Jersey Journal ^ | Thursday, February 24, 2005 | By Christian Niedan

[dcnd9]

Was referring to pushing of the smoking ban.

[Da Bilge Troll]

We just killed one of these bans here in Virginia....

How, pray tell???

[Pa-gal]

How can thy "ban" something that is LEGAL?

[qam1]

Crap, Just as I'm starting to get used to living here. Time to dust off the old resume (6 mos. ago I turned down a job in Virginia, Dam it!). Time to go bang on DiGaetano's door again.

But if this sign comes down,

I'm Outta here

[Gabz]

When someone tries to engage you in debate about any of the above issues, just ignore all the superfluous blah-blah-blah, and simply respond by saying, "A smoking ban would violate the rights of property owners. Government is not empowered to violate those rights."

I agree with you - but the proponents have an arguement for that as well.........that with rights come responsibility and some of those responsibilites are restrictions on operating your business.

I kid you not.

[Gabz]

Letters, emails, phone calls, folks on the ground in Richmond......

[Search4Truth]

Who the hell do they think they are?

[Calpernia]

>>>Letters, emails, phone calls, folks on the ground

Not affective when voting systems work for the ones with the money.

We need help.

Any more ideas?

[Gabz]

Money is a big problem, believe me I know.

Remember, people pushing these bans get paid to do it and states that pass them get funding for doing so from groups like the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to run more anti-something campaigns.

Restaurant and other hospitality trade groups.....especially if they are not controlled by the chains (TGIFriday's, Red Lobster, and the like), local chambers of commerce.

Bars and restaurants near the state line with Delaware and New York...........their businesses have benefited from those bans - this would hurt them.

The car thing is particularly onerous.........I'm at a loss as to what to tell you on that one.

As was said earlier - this is a private property rights issue, and while with running a business there are rules and regulations that must be followed - this is changing the rules AFTER the game has started.

I'm very unfamiliar with New Jersey politics and it's legislative process.

If you've got some specific questions or could get me a link to read the proposal I'll be more than happy to see what I can do .............but I suggest that you do so via FReepmail.......my postings on smoking threads are frequently monitored by some anti-smokers I've tangled with over the years.