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Battle over the past rages on in an evolving South
Christian Science Monitor ^ | from the February 24, 2005 edition | By Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 02/24/2005 7:46:32 AM PST by .cnI redruM

RALEIGH, N.C. – Bronzed Johnny Rebs, sprinting across a Capitol lawn, charging soundlessly for the ideals of the "lost cause," have long been seen as a quaint and largely harmless part of this region's heritage. Today, doubts rise alongside pride in regard to these sculpted heroes.

A school board declines to name a new high school in Cherokee County after Georgia's Civil War governor. Floridians question why Confederate soldiers adorn a water tower. Even the word "South," in some quarters, has become a slur - a convenient repository of national guilt over the exploitation of Africans in the Cotton Belt a century and a half ago.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confederacy; confederate; culturalbigotry; damnyankee; dixie; northvsouth
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As soon as I here some arrogant Northern Liberal start in on the South, I reach for the barf bag and the pepto bismol. I guess today, it's the CSM's turn to condescend.
1 posted on 02/24/2005 7:46:35 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

I hear ya over here.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 7:58:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: .cnI redruM

bump for later


3 posted on 02/24/2005 8:01:53 AM PST by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: TonyRo76
That's for certain.
6 posted on 02/24/2005 8:34:16 AM PST by .cnI redruM ("I think that I have a fairly good understanding of what constitutes insider information," -Soros)
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To: TonyRo76

Couldn't agree more -- can't wait to move out of Yankee Hell.


7 posted on 02/24/2005 8:40:57 AM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. A S-E)
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To: TonyRo76

You're right Tony! They do not know the Christ of the Holy Scriptures! At least they don't talk like it. And Christ said, By their fruits, you shall KNOW them.
BTW, did you read your mail? Just wondering. ;-)


8 posted on 02/24/2005 9:04:48 AM PST by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His Blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: TonyRo76

Take your time.
I know how that is. Besides, it was long! ;-)


10 posted on 02/24/2005 11:47:13 AM PST by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His Blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: .cnI redruM

Florida is only a "su-thun" state north of Orlando in the Pork Chop region.


11 posted on 02/24/2005 11:48:44 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: TonyRo76

Y'ever been to Gainesville? Chapel Hill? Athens? Southern college towns are just as sickeningly leftist as Boulder, Cambridge, Ann Arbor, and Yellow Springs are.


12 posted on 02/24/2005 11:50:24 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; 100%FEDUP; Al B.; Alia; alancarp; AntiGuv; Arkie2; Attn to Detail; ...
RALEIGH, N.C. – Bronzed Johnny Rebs, sprinting across a Capitol lawn, charging soundlessly for the ideals of the "lost cause," have long been seen as a quaint and largely harmless part of this region's heritage. Today, doubts rise alongside pride in regard to these sculpted heroes.

HUH?

Statues and Monuments on Union Square

Over the last century, numerous statues and monuments have been erected on the Square memorializing people and events in the history of North Carolina. The collection on Union Square consists of fourteen monuments, most of them bronze on stone bases. The following are brief descriptions of each:

Presidents from North Carolina


13 posted on 02/24/2005 11:55:00 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: .cnI redruM
How racist is this?

Gaffney, SC

14 posted on 02/24/2005 12:07:16 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: .cnI redruM; All
I'm nearing the end of Webb's "Born Fighting." Being of Scotch-Irish descent and Southern (by the grace of God), I relate very much to the book. It is a fascinating read and he nailed the Southern culture in a way that the Christian Science Monitor never could begin to understand.
15 posted on 02/24/2005 12:19:05 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Howlin
I'm a yankee by birth,
Southern by the Grace of God!

I guess you can call me an Urban Redneck!

17 posted on 02/24/2005 2:42:53 PM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: .cnI redruM; Howlin; Clemenza; TonyRo76
College towns have been mentioned on this thread, and as it happens, both of my Southerm alma maters have been embroiled in controversies over Confederate Memorials. The United Daughters of the Confederacy were involved in both cases.

Vanderbilt University: In 1935, a grant of $50,000 (and that was serious money in the middle of the Depression) by the United Daughters of the Confederacy helped fund the construction of dormitory named Confederate Memorial Hall on the campus of Peabody College (Vanderbilt has since taken over Peabody, whose campus is across 24th Avenue, South from Vanderbilt's main campus).

A few years ago, Vanderbilt summarily decided to remove the name "Confederate," in an effort to be "more inclusive." They were sued by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, who alleged breach of contract. The Court found the contract regarding the name of the building to be null and void, so "Confederate Memorial Hall" is no more, alas.

Ah, but Vanderbilt can't completely run from its past. The late Senator from Mississippi, Theodore Bilbo, whose views on racial matters were, shall we say, at odds with the current concept of enlightenment, was an alum of Vanderbilt Law -- something I've never heard the university brag about.

University of North Carolina: In 1913, a statue of a Confederate soldier, paid for by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, and in honor of the approximately 1,000 students of UNC who served in the Confederate armed forces (that was about 40% of the enrollment at the time) was placed in a prominent location in the old part of the campus, McCorkle Place, facing Franklin Street. The soldier carries a rifle, and he soon came to be known as "Silent Sam": legend has it that he fires his rifle every time he sees a virgin, hence his quietude (or at least, that's the story which is always told to parents during parental orientation tours).

Silent Sam has been under sporadic attack by the NAACP, certain professors, and liberal groups for quite a few years; thus far, efforts to remove him have failed.

18 posted on 02/24/2005 2:50:20 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (<b><font color=e58d0e>Did you know that HTML codes don't work on tag lines?</font></b>)
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To: TonyRo76; Constitution Day
RALEIGH, N.C. – Bronzed Johnny Rebs, sprinting across a Capitol lawn, charging soundlessly for the ideals of the "lost cause," have long been seen as a quaint and largely harmless part of this region's heritage. Today, doubts rise alongside pride in regard to these sculpted heroes.

I live in the Raleigh area. Coming straight down Hillsborough Street, the monument to the Confederacy is the first monument you see. Turn right and around the corner is a monument to the women of the Confederacy. In the town I live in, Pittsboro (about 30 miles away), the monument to the Confederate soldier is just outside of town hall around the circle. Frankly, I'm suprised the yankees (and trust me there are plenty of yankees to go around) that live in this state haven't attacked either one yet

19 posted on 02/24/2005 3:20:16 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping, Howlin. I love this state. I love its history. And right before my eyes, I'm witnessing the encroachment of mass ignorance vis a vis liberalism and "political identity politics".

Over my dead body.

20 posted on 02/24/2005 3:35:20 PM PST by Alia
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