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Who Killed the Jersey City Coptic Family: Robbers? Islamists?
Jewish Voice and Opinion ^
| Feb. 23, 2005
Posted on 02/23/2005 9:36:56 AM PST by Alouette
The police seem to have no leads in the case of the Armanious familyhusband, Hossam, 47, wife, Amal Garas, 37, and their daughters Monica, 8, and Sylvia, 15 who were found murdered in their Jersey City home last month, but the family's Coptic-Christian co-religionists and their supporters have no doubts. They are certain it was the work of Muslim extremists.
Some say the Islamist murderers received support from the Egyptian government. One pro-Israel leader of the Coptic community insists compromised Coptic clergymen bear their share of guilt, too.
Each member of the family was bound and gagged before their throats were slit. Sylvia was found with a huge gash in her chest where she had been repeatedly stabbed. She was also stabbed in the wrist where she had a tattoo of a Coptic cross. Although Monica's cross tattoo was not defaced, her wrists were also cut.
According to family members who viewed the bodies at the funeral home, the victims had horizontal slits across the throat. Below the slit, on the left, right, and middle of the throat were three holes big enough so that one could place a finger in each hole.
It was as if the killers took a knife and turned it repeatedly in a circular fashion, as if to screw holes into the victims'necks, said a member of the family. When we saw the pictures, you could tell that they were hurt really, really bad in the face, especially Sylvia, said Milad Garas, Amal Garas' uncle.
Active Debaters
Mr. Armanious and his daughter, Sylvia, were outspoken proponents of their faith who, emboldened by American laws guaranteeing freedom of speech, did not hesitate to carry on Internet debates with Muslims.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armanious; copt; islam; islamofascist; jihad; koranimals; murder; muslim; terrorism; terrorist
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Long and very extensive article, but worth the read.
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:37:01 AM PST
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Alouette
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02/23/2005 9:38:54 AM PST
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Alouette
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:39:22 AM PST
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Alouette
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To: Alouette
Bump.
Thanks for posting this. There have been several threads; here's hoping for arrests soon.
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:40:04 AM PST
by
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To: Alouette
I've no idea if this article has anything to do with the Coptic Family.
I just read it this morning and the Jersey City caught my eye.
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02/23/2005 9:43:38 AM PST
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Calpernia
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:43:55 AM PST
by
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:47:59 AM PST
by
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:48:59 AM PST
by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: Alouette
The police seem to have no leads in the case of the Armanious family They need to start at the local mosque...
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:49:19 AM PST
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: Alouette
When we saw the pictures, you could tell that they were hurt really, really bad in the face, especially Sylvia,Disgusting vermin.
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:50:55 AM PST
by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
To: Alouette
They know who did it. But the leftys don't want to admit it.
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posted on
02/23/2005 9:56:06 AM PST
by
speed_addiction
(Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
To: Alouette
To: Alouette
Mr. Armanious and his daughter, Sylvia, were outspoken proponents of their faith who, emboldened by American laws guaranteeing freedom of speech, did not hesitate to carry on Internet debates with Muslims.
If the perpetrators of this crime are not apprehended, we are well on our way to seeing our 'free speech' guarantees replaced by Sharia. This is an appalling crime and the whole 'there are no suspects' thing smacks of indifference or fear on the part of law enforcement.
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posted on
02/23/2005 10:05:55 AM PST
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: Alouette
why do I suspect that the authorities "have no suspects" solely from a refusal on their part to look in certain obvious directions?
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posted on
02/23/2005 10:26:14 AM PST
by
King Prout
(Remember John Adam!)
To: Alouette
Each member of the family was bound and gagged before their throats were slit. Sylvia was found with a huge gash in her chest where she had been repeatedly stabbed. She was also stabbed in the wrist where she had a tattoo of a Coptic cross. Although Monica's cross tattoo was not defaced, her wrists were also cut.Of course you know that 'PC' will hinder an honest and diligent investigation into this murder. When the murderers get away with this, they will become even bolder.
To: Alouette; All
Alouette only place you could see the investigation on this family murder was US network 700 Club on ABC Family channel
I think it was Islamic terrorists no question I hear they were stalk on the internet
That scary
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posted on
02/23/2005 10:34:44 AM PST
by
SevenofNine
(Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
To: Convert from ECUSA
The PC apparatchiks in New Jersey will never admit that these atrocities were done by the adherents of "TROP".
To: NYer
Bump to your ping. I'm waiting to hear an APB for two white men driving a white truck. Political correctness is going to kill us all....
To: Alouette
Some memebers of the Coptic community have told law enforcement officials about a jersey City Imam wh allegedly declared the Armanious family's blood to be "halal," or licit to shed, because of their proselytizing activities among Muslims. According to a family fri9end, the Muslim Cleric has since fled the country.
"Perhaps there is nothing to this. Perhaps the man who fled is innocent. But even if he is, the Copts have had perfectly cogent reasons for their suspicions," said Mr. Spencer, noting that there have been no statements from the Hudson County Prosecutors Office indicating that the Copts' suspicions and allegations are being investigated...
Many observers noted that the execution of the Armanious family bore all the hallmarks of ritual murder.
"The way the four family members were bound and gagged and the way their throats were slit with holes carved is similar to executions that are shown on al-Jazerra television. The American public is not aware of this because the details of the executions are not often described in news accounts"...
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posted on
02/23/2005 11:04:07 AM PST
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: King Prout
It is New Jersey, so the police may be forbidden to look into certain areas so as to not be "profiling".
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posted on
02/23/2005 11:15:41 AM PST
by
redgolum
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