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School can't locate Churchill's thesis: UI officials not sure master's paper was required
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 2/23/05 | Berny Morson

Posted on 02/23/2005 8:48:38 AM PST by freespirited

University of Illinois officials said Tuesday they can't locate Ward Churchill's master's thesis and aren't sure if he was required to write one.

The embattled University of Colorado ethnic-studies professor claims undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of Illinois' Springfield campus, which was known as Sangamon State University until 1995. Springfield is in Sangamon County.

University of Illinois at Springfield spokeswoman Cheryl Peck confirmed that Churchill received a bachelor's degree in 1974 and a master's degree in 1975. But no thesis is on file, she said.

"We can't say for sure he didn't write one," Peck said. It is not clear if a thesis was a requirement at the time Churchill received the degree in communications, she said.

CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale said she did not know if faculty members inquired about Churchill's thesis in 1991 before giving him tenure.

Documents released last week by CU indicate some faculty members had reservations about granting tenure to a professor who lacked a doctorate.

The documents are silent on a master's thesis.

On Tuesday, Illinois faculty members described Sangamon State - in the 1970s, when Churchill attended - as focused on innovative teaching methods, including an emphasis on social issues of the day.

The campus did not have academic departments. Instead, faculty members were rostered under interdisciplinary groupings, including Churchill's major, communications in a technological society.

Students could major in traditional subjects, such as history or English, but they could also design their own majors in consultation with the faculty.

Larry Golden, a political scientist and one of the original professors when Sangamon opened in 1970, said the school was not as freewheeling as it sounds.

Proposals for self-designed majors were given extensive faculty review, he said.

The campus served only juniors, seniors and master's-degree students. They would have taken the standard courses at a two-year college before coming to Sangamon.

The program included an "applied-studies term," in which students earned credit by working off campus. Projects ranged from working with a state legislator to community organizing.

The students were required to take part in a seminar and write journals or term papers as part of the program, Golden said.

"You couldn't just go to an anti-war rally in Washington and say, 'That's my experience,' " Golden said.


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KEYWORDS: academia; churchill; fakeindian; hateamericafilth; hatingamerica; leftistwackos; mastersthesis; sangamonstate; ucolorado; wardchurchill; wazzathesis
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To: freespirited

HEY! I have a bachelor's degree! Can I be a tenured professor, too????


121 posted on 02/23/2005 11:27:42 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: oldbrowser

I seem to remember 30 semester hours as the basic requirement, 6 additional if no thesis, but I didn't get my master's, so my recollection may not be correct. 36 hours would be logistically do-able. I did not find the graduate level electives I took towards my BS to be any more difficult than the under grad courses required for my major.


122 posted on 02/23/2005 11:29:44 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: freespirited

I think you give a hamster a cigarette and pump his lungs, I learned that at Oak Ridge.


123 posted on 02/23/2005 11:44:19 AM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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To: JustRight

" think I ate at a McDonalds there once. Maybe I have a degree from that university. I hope it's a PhD"

You have a Master's of Macs, which confers the right to eat fatty non-PC food.


124 posted on 02/23/2005 11:45:43 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Muleteam1; freespirited

They are legit engineers (though not P.E.'s).

NC State came up with a way to factory more people through the program by elminiting the need for a thesis or project (thus adding two classes), and then letting you count up to 4 of your undergrad classes twice (once for the BSE and once for the MSEE) so in the end, all it takes is two relatively light semesters of three classes each for the master's.


125 posted on 02/23/2005 12:28:45 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: Alberta's Child
2. Do the same for University of Illinois graduates.

HEY HEY HEY!

The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign is an excellent school. The College of Engineering alone is one of the best in the nation, as many technologies we use every day were pioneered there. There are people of every race, creed, religion, and culture who attend that University, each leaving with values they have learned through their experiences with friends, instructors, church and family. Like all large universities, these values held by graduating students vary from person to person.

Judging all UI or CU grads on the basis of one raving lunatic with poor values and hatred for America is like judging all Congressmen on the records of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

Or is judging people by stereotype in favor of one's individual merit the way you do business?

126 posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:00 PM PST by SaveTheChief (There are 10 types of people -- those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: rhetorica

Sounds like you chose wisely. I want to begin my PhD in Jan. if I can get my business off the ground within the next few months but that will dictate everything. what is your PhD in and how long did you take to earn it?


127 posted on 02/23/2005 1:12:24 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: Ruth A.

Yeah, I saw that too and wondered.


128 posted on 02/23/2005 1:12:58 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: martin gibson

this is sarcasm?

thanks.


129 posted on 02/23/2005 2:09:19 PM PST by ken21 (the terrorists didn't blow up the new york times because the times supports them. /s)
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To: freespirited

A one year's masters and no thesis--how very super elite.

His whole teaching history is a joke--a continuing joke that started in Sangamon when he designed his own degree.

Gotta love modern academia!

vaudine


130 posted on 02/23/2005 2:18:01 PM PST by vaudine
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To: headsonpikes

Thank you.


131 posted on 02/23/2005 2:26:42 PM PST by libstripper
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To: K4Harty

My Ph.D. is in communication studies. It took me 15 months to do my M.A. and 3 and 1/2 years of classwork and three years working on the dissertation to finish the Ph.D. (The dissertation took so long because I was working full-time while I was writing).

It was worth it even though I'm no longer teaching full-time. Given the consulting I do, I get to teach every day--it's just not in a classroom. I also get to use what I've learned about human communication to try to do some good rather than simply writing in academic journals (that has a place, but it just wasn't for me).

What do you want to get your degree in?


132 posted on 02/23/2005 2:30:44 PM PST by rhetorica
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To: krb
Oh well. I suppose it is what you do with whatever education you are able to get that really counts. A few minutes ago my good friend just left my house. This man never had the opportunity to even get a first grade education as his family were migrant workers. He neither reads or writes Spanish or English (he is Hispanic) yet he became a Public Works Supervisor in this small west Texas town. In retirement he makes about three, possibly four, times the average income in this small town. He is a smart fellow who would only been slowed by an education during his working career.

Muleteam1

133 posted on 02/23/2005 3:06:59 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: rhetorica
What do you want to get your degree in?

I am leaning towards business organizational mgt. simply because my BA and MBA are in Business. The other one I thought of was something theologically based because the PhD would be for personal reasons only and would have little bearing on my work.

134 posted on 02/23/2005 3:26:31 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: roses of sharon
This afternoon on KHOW radio, where the afternoon team consisting of two lawyers (one a lefty, one a righty) have been hounding this Indian wannabe, they played a tape of Churchill telling a group of freaks in some lecture how they should all be ashamed because it took an Arab to do what they (the students) should all be doing (9/11)...then one bearded maggot stands up and says, "Well what should I do, and how do I do it and fly under the radar"...he tells him how to do it, where to do it (Wall St), how to dress etc...

This nimrod is trying to say he doesn't promote violence against the country...PLEASE, there it is on tape..
135 posted on 02/23/2005 4:46:43 PM PST by gbtheshark (So thankful to be living in such interesting times!!!!)
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To: libstripper

well spoken.


136 posted on 02/23/2005 5:19:17 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Religeous nutcases cause most problems.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

If this is true, it only shows the Harvard faculty is more bigoted, dishonest, intellectually bankrupt, and morally depraved than I originally gave them credit for. After all, it's a lot like a union that's involved in a legitimate labor dispute with an employer over working conditions claiming that's not really the issue, but their employer's failure to join the Klan and participate in the most recent lunching and burning of a black is what's REALLY BAD about the employer.


137 posted on 02/23/2005 5:39:36 PM PST by libstripper
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To: K4Harty

Good luck to you. The opportunity, like most everything else, is what you make of it. I'm grateful for mine--it is quite a luxury and a gift to be able to learn about something that truly interests you!


138 posted on 02/24/2005 8:54:50 AM PST by rhetorica
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To: rhetorica

Thanks for your support.


139 posted on 02/24/2005 11:22:01 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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