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Price of Carbon on the Rise (Kyoto Protocol)
ipsnews.net/ ^ | Feb 22 2005 | Diana Cariboni

Posted on 02/22/2005 10:06:58 AM PST by nextthunder

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1 posted on 02/22/2005 10:06:59 AM PST by nextthunder
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The Industrial Revolution in the Western world, responsible for much of the pollution now threatening the planet's very existence, was fuelled by the drive for profit.

Most of this sentence is conjecture. One thing is certain, though: the profit motive and the parabolic increase in living standards worldwide are inexhorably linked.

Perhaps the author would rather the world live in squalor...but screw him.

2 posted on 02/22/2005 10:17:17 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: nextthunder
The Industrial Revolution in the Western world, responsible for much of the pollution now threatening the planet's very existence, was fuelled by the drive for profit.

Quit reading there. What a short article!

APf

3 posted on 02/22/2005 10:21:41 AM PST by APFel (For some reason, the word "Freeper" is flagged by the spellcheck. Someone contact Websters.)
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To: nextthunder
Does buying and selling gas emissions make sense?

Yes, if you are an idiot, it makes perfect sense. To others, it looks like a scheme to pay for fictional goods to extract wealth from rich nations and give to poor/corrupt governments and will not make any difference what so ever to the environment.

4 posted on 02/22/2005 10:25:09 AM PST by Always Right
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To: the invisib1e hand
... a means of obliging the wealthy industrialised countries to curb emissions of the gases that cause global warming and climate change.

That's one of the biggest falsehoods put over on the public in recent memory and not at all what Kyoto was about.

5 posted on 02/22/2005 10:26:50 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: the invisib1e hand

The left will not be satisfied until we are all living in caves again.


6 posted on 02/22/2005 10:27:23 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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I've got a stack of late 1970's Mother Earth News magazines at home. They have some good articles for rural living (how to make an arc welder out of lawn mower, and such), but it was also an early flag ship for the environmentalist movement. Some of the articles really need to be posted here strictly for the humor of them: "90% of America's top soil will be eroded away by 1995, causing global famine", "Population explosion will cause hunger and riots ten years from now...", "Oil will run out by the year 1987", etc. The only part of their story that the environmentalists have managed to keep straight over the years is that disaster is just around the corner if everyone else doesn't do as they say.
8 posted on 02/22/2005 10:38:20 AM PST by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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(Since 2-14-05)
You signed up to post this crap?


9 posted on 02/22/2005 10:44:36 AM PST by talleyman (E=mc2 (before taxes))
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To: WmDonovan

I always recommend "The Doomsday Myth: Ten Thousand Years of Economic Crises." By Charles Maurice and Charles something-or-other (pardon). It's still available at Amazon. Must reading.


10 posted on 02/22/2005 10:50:30 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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"Does buying and selling gas emissions make sense? According to companies in the 35 industrialised nations that have committed themselves to reducing emissions under the Kyoto Protocol, the answer is yes -- especially if it means cutting costs and boosting profits."

What a bunch of morons! At this rate these Jackasses will out of business within the year. You just gotta love it when the Socialist/Marxist pin heads start reaping what they've sown.

11 posted on 02/22/2005 10:57:22 AM PST by Desron13
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To: the invisib1e hand

Anytime you see a writer use the terms "North" and "South" when referring to developed countries and turd world pits, RUN. THat is mega-"Progressive" ideological babble.


12 posted on 02/22/2005 11:00:13 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: nextthunder
Celebrating Hot Air Day!

Save your breath. Save the planet. Stop exhaling...

Since coming into effect February 16, 2005, the Kyoto Protocol has cost about 2.7 billion dollars

While the potential temperature saving by the year 2050 so far achieved by Kyoto is 0.000028052 degrees C.

(to get activity on the clock we had to go to billionths part of one degree, which obviously cannot be measured as a global mean) for more information and to see a dynamic cost and effect clock Click here.

13 posted on 02/22/2005 11:01:16 AM PST by N. Theknow
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I remember that Buill Clinton gave Chelsea a $10,000 CO2 futures contract as a graduation present. Can't find it now.


14 posted on 02/22/2005 11:02:21 AM PST by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
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To: Always Right
Yes, if you are an idiot, it makes perfect sense

Well, I can agree not to burn dirty oil rags in a trash bin, will some big industry give me money so they can have the credit for the polution I was about to do? How much do I get?

15 posted on 02/22/2005 11:02:53 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: nextthunder

The way kyoto is written we are going to have a garbage shortage. Taxpayers in those countries will have to pay to have garbage imported.


16 posted on 02/22/2005 11:04:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The left will not be satisfied until we are all living in caves again.

The globalists will not be satisfied until all but the elite are living in caves again.

17 posted on 02/22/2005 11:16:07 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: the invisib1e hand

The opening line is absurd.


18 posted on 02/22/2005 11:34:02 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: nextthunder

Can anyone trade carbon futures? I trade euros and equity futures. The whole thing is ludicrous, but if I can profit from the lefto wackos, it would be extra fun.


19 posted on 02/22/2005 11:49:00 AM PST by montag813
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To: Always Right
a scheme to pay for fictional goods to extract wealth from rich nations and give to poor/corrupt governments and will not make any difference what so ever to the environment.

in a nutshell - and 99% of the money will never get where it's "supposed" to go - it will slip into many pockets along the way - like the oil-for-food scheme...except this is also orchestrated to rule the industrialized countries.

It will be interesting to see how soon the signers of this boondoggle will wake up

20 posted on 02/22/2005 12:22:52 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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