Posted on 02/22/2005 7:38:01 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Heard this as a blurb on the radio. Noticed he's islamic too.
Are you seriously thinking that information has not been conveyed and people might not understand that?
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No. I am not sure why you responded to me like that. I was being sarcastic about why the MSM didn't mention the man being a member of the ROP.
[snip] The fact that CAIR was toying with the emotions of persons wanting to give money to a fund that CAIR disguised as one related to the 9/11 attacks is despicable The fact that CAIR was asking people to donate to an organization that was raising millions for a terrorist organization that regularly sends suicide squads to murder innocent people is criminal.
Later that month, on September 25, 2001, CAIR changed the link to explicitly ask persons to Donate through the Holy Land Foundation. And in addition, CAIR added a new link to its site, soliciting persons to Donate through the Global Relief Foundation.
The Global Relief Foundation, like the Holy Land Foundation, was soon to be shut down by the U.S. government on terrorism related charges. As stated by the Treasury Department, The Global Relief Foundation has connections to, has provided support for, and has provided assistance to Usama Bin Ladin, the al-Qaeda Network, and other known terrorist groups.[/snip]
The CAIR-Terror Connection: What did CAIR know, and when did it know it? - FR/FrontPageMagazine (4/29/2004)
So the current connect the dots and timeline is as follows:
- GFR received "repurposed" 911 donations from CAIR since September 2001.
- NYT foreign correspondent Philip Shenon warned the GRF that the FBI was about to raid its office in December 2001.
- February 2002, GRF sued several MSM outlets, including the NYT, for libel but failed on appeal after being called a "terrorist organization".
- Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, man charged with conspiring to assasinate GWB has Ashraf Nubani as his lawyer.
- Ashraf Nubani defended GFR in their libel suit against the MSM
...followed by "Bigoted law enforcement authorities think arresting an aspiring assassin, Al Qaeda lover, and terror bomber is OK after 9/11...."
This one so dismays me. i grew up in this building where anti-Americanism is now employed. It used to be Mt. Vernon High School, right smack on Route 1. (Yes, Mt. Vernon as in George Washington. George Washington's Mt. Vernon estate is just a few miles away.) My brother went there, i was there. I did plays there and ran the curtains until blisters were on my fingers. I tried out for cheerleader there (never made it but that's another story). My first job as a pre-teen was at the Dairy Queen next door and i rode my bike there. We are quintessential Americans who roamed those hallowed halls and learned the lessons of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, we did pledge our allegiance to the American flag with hand over heart. Now, it's the Saudi-Islam institute. i'm sick, i tell ya. Sick.
Thanks for the ping!
I was wondering the same. It seems that no one wishes to mention that he is a follower of the PROP.
Methinks the MSM might wish to keep that very hush-hush....
SF71
Virgina Muslim!
I was a work gathering about a year after 9/11. A mooslim co-worker (born in Pakistan) had imbibed a little bit too much of the fruit of the vine. He came up to me at the party and said, "I'm not drunk, mooslims don't drink." It sent a chill down my spine. He's morphed into American culture (so he thinks) but I still think the jihad spirit dwells within.
"But ... but ... but ... I'M AN HONOR STUDENT!"
He attended a private Muslim/Islamic school where tenets of Islamic extremism is taught. The school is funded by extremist members in the Near East, probably some living in the U.S., and GOD KNOWS, maybe the U.S. government too!
Innumeracy:
Mathematical Illiteracy
and Its Consequences
by John Allen Paulos
Or send him to the Bates Motel to take a shower...
From an article once posted by Tailgunner Joe:
On January 18 Rep. John Conyers Jr., Michigan Democrat, told a placard-waving anti-war crowd: "The greatest patriots of this country are here today...The president said it'd be a cold day in Washington before this country turns against this war, but it is a cold day in Washington and here we are."Apart from Conyers nasty insinuation people who disagree with his leftwing views about war against the genocidal Saddam are not patriotic, what can we deduce from his presence? Well, for one, Rep. does not like America and prefers the company of totalitarians to that of genuine democrats. And how do I know this? Because, as he well knows, the demonstration was organized by ANSWER which in turn takes its instructions from the WWP, a Stalinist organisation that also fronts for North Korea and Saddam Hussein. Knowing this Conyers still collaborated with them in an attempt try to subvert the Bush Administration.
It is quite interesting to learn precisely what Conyers means by a patriot. In 1979 he addressed the first national conference of the USPC (United States Peace Council) along with Romesh Chandra, a KGB agent, who also headed the WPC (World Peace Council). The USPC was a subsidiary of the WPC which in turn received 90 percent of its funding from the KGB. The organisation was established by the IDCC (International Department of the Central Committee) and the bloodstained Boris Ponomarev was its chief. All of this was an open secret that Conyers also shared. But it did not bother him.
In case anyone is naïve enough to have any doubts about Ponomarev's intentions, which means the Politburo's plans, he issued instructions in 1974 calling on Russia's allies (agents of influence and active KGB agents) within Western political parties to "neutralize" anti-communist leaders, including those in America....
----"Rep. John Conyers: patriot or something else?," by Addison Ross, BrookesNews.Com, 18 Feb. 2003
In 1975, acting as point man for the IPS, he [John Conures] organized a group of congressmen to request that the organisation prepare an alternative budget to Ford's budget. The result was a socialist manifesto that Conyers thought was the cat's whiskers. (Conyers is not known for the power of his intellect). The same shabby intellectual process was followed the next year with the same shabby socialist intellectual results. One of its suggestions was to savage defense to the extent of badly crippling our military forces. (Readers will be interested to know that the IPS has strong links to the New York Times, The Washington Post and L A Times. That might explain these papers homogenized political opinions.)--- "Rep. John Conyers: patriot or something else?," by Addison Ross, BrookesNews.Com, 18 Feb. 2003
The "Paintball Case" is known here on FR by the keywords "PAINTBALLCELL" and "VIRGINIAJIHAD" . As I recall, among that ring was an individual of Iraqi heritage who went by the name Tamimi or something similar.
The Islamic scholar, Ali Al-Timimi, 39, has confirmed through a spokesman that he is the subject of a grand jury investigation. According to the indictment, "conspirator #1" (Timimi) is the "spiritual leader" of the men. After 9/11, the government said, he prodded the defendants to fight jihad, called the United States an enemy of Islam, and declared U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan legitimate targets. Through a spokesman, Timimi, of Fairfax, Va., denied the accusations. The son of Iraqi immigrants is a doctoral student and researcher at George Mason University, using mathematical models to study cancer.---- "Tracing the case of 'Virginia jihad' , Terror charges link Montco to Kashmir" by Jennifer Lin, Mark Fazlollah, Maria Panaritis and Jeff Shields, Philadelphia Enquirer, Fri, Jul. 25, 2003
As an Islamic scholar, Timimi espoused a strict interpretation of the Koran. In one undated speech available online, Timimi says: "Our enemy until the day of judgment is the Christians, what we call the westerners or Europeans" - a reference his spokesman says was to a spiritual and social struggle, not violence.
"He's fundamentally opposed to violence," said Todd Gallinger, a spokesman for Timimi's lawyer, Martin McMahon. "He feels like he's being targeted because he's exercised his First Amendment rights to religion and to speech."
And here's an older article mentioning Abu Ali:
Suspects tied to terror group arrested
The Associated Press | 6/27/03 | Curt Anderson
Posted on 06/27/2003 8:20:33 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
WASHINGTON (AP) The FBI made a series of arrests in three states Friday of men suspected of ties to an anti-U.S. terrorist organization whose main goal is driving India out of the disputed Kashmir territory in South Asia.
The arrests of at least seven suspects were made in Pennsylvania, Maryland and Virginia, said federal law enforcement officials speaking on condition of anonymity.
Federal charges against the men, and several others who are overseas, were to be announced later in the day.
The men are alleged to be part of an extremist Muslim organization called Lashkar-e-Taiba, which is on the State Department's list of terrorist organizations. The organization, whose name means "army of the righteous," is characterized by the State Department as strongly anti-U.S. in addition to its goals in Kashmir.
Officials would not immediately say whether the men are suspected of plotting terrorist attacks in the United States, or if they have any direct links to the al-Qaida terror network.
The Indian government has accused Lashkar-e-Taiba of several suicide attacks against government officials and civilians in Kashmir, which is the subject of a long dispute between India and Pakistan.
U.S. authorities obtained a number of warrants this year to conduct searches of the suspects' homes to look for evidence of militant or terrorist activities, officials said. The Washington Post reported earlier this week that some of the suspects played warlike paintball games in Northern Virginia and attended lectures given by a Muslim scholar whose home was also searched.
One suspect, identified as Ahmed Abu-Ali, also has been taken into custody in Saudi Arabia by officials there who are investigating the May 12 bombings in Riyadh in which nine attackers and 25 other people were killed, U.S. officials said.
Not a public school at all, more or less an upscale equivalent of what they call madrassas in their part of the world. Yes, apparently we are foolish enough to have allowed all-Muslim high schools to not only survive but flourish in this country.
We haven't fallen that far yet, for someone like this to be a valedictorian of , say, one of the many high schools named after Presidents or local heroes in this country. But, unless we start taking these people seriously and DEPORTING them, this will go on for DECADES, and I DO mean DECADES. But long before that, we will have acquiesced in a state of being much like that prescribed by John Kerry during his campaign, accepting terrorism at a certain level, and acclimating ourselves to its manifestations.But long before THAT, Hillary Clinton will have positioned herself to do whatever it takes to be President: she'll start undermining Bush and his flabby anti-terrorist policies, and she'll get in, irony of ironies, by being, or pretending to be , the superhawk that Bush ISN'T.
...Three of those arrested were planning a news conference this morning to complain of FBI harassment. Attorney Ashraf Nubani and two of the men's fathers appeared before reporters instead, to insist the men did nothing wrong and are being targeted because they are Muslims.Nubani, who characterized the men as "kids," said they were involved in innocent "sport activity," such as "horseback riding and outdoor activities including paintball." He said some of the men did go to Kashmir and perhaps other foreign countries, [...?]
One of Nubani's clients, Ahmed Abu-Ali, was taken into custody by Saudi Arabian authorities on suspicion he is connected to the May 12 bombings in Riyadh....
----"Area Muslims Charged With Conspiring With Terrorist Group," By Jerry Markon and Susan Schmidt, Washington Post Staff Writers,Friday, June 27, 2003; 12:46 PM
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