Posted on 02/22/2005 7:34:15 AM PST by PatrickHenry
When it's your job to serve as the president's in-house expert on science and technology, being constantly in the media spotlight isn't necessarily a mark of distinction. But for President Bush's stoically inclined science adviser John Marburger, immense controversy followed his blanket dismissal last year of allegations (now endorsed by 48 Nobel laureates) that the administration has systematically abused science. So it was more than a little refreshing last Wednesday to hear Marburger take a strong stance against science politicization and abuse on one issue where it really matters: evolution.
Speaking at the annual conference of the National Association of Science Writers, Marburger fielded an audience question about "Intelligent Design" (ID), the latest supposedly scientific alternative to Charles Darwin's theory of descent with modification. The White House's chief scientist stated point blank, "Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory." And that's not all -- as if to ram the point home, Marburger soon continued, "I don't regard Intelligent Design as a scientific topi."
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I'm not sure the whole article can be copied here, so please go to the link to read it all:
Chris Mooney, "Intelligent Denials", The American Prospect Online, Feb 22, 2005.
(Excerpt) Read more at prospect.org ...
Well, we didn't descend from modern gorillas and chimps. All living apes come from an extinct ape ancestor. The rest of your statement is correct, though.
"I know I didn't descend from apes and really, that's all that matters."
The very basic piece of information you're missing is that the theory of evolution does not deal with the evolution of individuals. It deals with species. You are a member of the species Homo Sapiens. That species evolved a very, very long time ago, from another species of Homo, which also evolved from previous species of hominids.
I'm trying here, but you really must read something so you won't sound so foolish.
Actually, humans are apes.
Your questions and this conclusion demonstrate that you do not have a grasp of what the TOE actually says. You have only made YOURSELF look uninformed, and yes, foolish.
If only some "conservatives" cared half as much about defeating socialism as they cared about defeating creationism.
How did you make evolution look silly again?
Thanks to the creationists and their tactics, the two go together quite well.
Do you know what speciation means? You also keep repeating the same error despite being corrected...(glad you aren't my secretary) . Aside from the silliness of maintaining that human beings evolved from current-day apes, breeding an ape and a human together likely hasn't been tried (you are welcome to volunteer) and having worked extensively with apes and monkeys, I've never met anyone who would be up to the task.
Which is why upright apes probably evolved in the savannah, not the jungle. There aren't many trees in the savannah.
That made no sense.
That's funny, I was thinking that it would be great if some "conservatives" cared half as much about defeating socialism as they did about defeating evolution.
If the Republican party becomes a creationist party, we will never again win a national election. Then you'll have socialism. Big time. And you'll also have a permanantly minority creationist party.
I don't think the apes would have him. Not evolved enough.
Stand up straight!
We already have socialism. Big time.
Why are you worried about the GOP becoming a "creationist party"? I think its base is Christian (using the term somewhat loosely), but I've never thought creationism was one of its platforms.
"Some men think the world round, others think it flat. It is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the King's command make it round? And if it is round, will the King's command flatten it?" -- Thomas Moore, "A Man for all Seasons" by Robert Bolt
It's not and probably never will be. However, in politics perception is reality. The Democrats will attempt to portray the Republican party as the "creationist party." In fact, I've already seen articles and editorials in the aftermath of the election making fun of Bush voters for believing that the world was created in six days. If they are successful, many people will be driven away from the Republican party. It is in the best interest of Republican party to demonstrate that we are not a party of anti-scientific luddites who refuse to see the evidence that's generally accepted by the scientific community. It also serves Christianity as well to show that not all Christians are so stubborn that they reject evolution regardless of the evidence.
Why does a Creator frighten you so?
Isn't very logical, is it?
No they're not.
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