Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hillary Clinton's Popularity Up in State, Even Among Republicans
NY Times ^ | 2/22/05 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 02/21/2005 8:32:45 PM PST by Libloather

Clinton's Popularity Up in State, Even Among Republicans
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ
Published: February 22, 2005

Remember Hillary Rodham Clinton and the conventional wisdom about how polarizing a figure she is? Well, think again.

Recent polls have shown that Mrs. Clinton, the junior senator from New York, may have turned a corner politically, sharply reducing the number of voters in the state who harbor negative views of her.

Pollsters say the change is remarkable for a woman who has long been shadowed by a seemingly implacable group of voters - commonly referred to as Hillary haters - who dislike her, no matter what she does, and who pose a potential obstacle to any presidential ambitions she may harbor.

A measure of how far Senator Clinton has come was on display Sunday when Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, said on "Meet the Press" that he thought Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, would make a good president, although he said that he would support his party's nominee. She returned the compliment, saying when asked by the program's host, Tim Russert, that Senator McCain would be a good president.

The changing view of Mrs. Clinton coincides with a period following the November election in which she offered a series of speeches filled with references to faith and prayer, while putting less emphasis on polarizing social issues like gay marriage and abortion.

The result of these comments has been an emerging image of Senator Clinton that is far different from the caricature that Republicans have painted of her: that of a secular liberal whose stances are largely at odds with a public that they say is concerned about the nation's moral direction.

Political analysts say the themes Senator Clinton has emphasized - combined with the hard-working image she has sought to project - appear to be causing large numbers of voters to re-evaluate her in New York, although not nationally, where the number of people who disapprove of her is still high. In a Marist poll last fall, roughly 4 in 10 Americans had negative views of her.

Her progress appealing to once skeptical New Yorkers was illuminated by a New York Times poll released last week that showed that 21 percent of New Yorkers had an unfavorable opinion of how she is handling her job, down significantly from the 29 percent of voters who expressed similar sentiments in October 2002.

(In two recent back-to-back surveys, pollsters for Quinnipiac University, in Hamden, Conn., also found a notable decline in the number of New York voters who expressed a negative view of Mrs. Clinton.)

At the same time, Senator Clinton's job approval rating has increased to 69 percent from 58 percent in October 2002, according to the Times poll. That is higher even than the 63 percent approval rating of Charles E. Schumer, the senior senator from New York who was re-elected last year to a second term with a record 71 percent of the vote and who is known for his attention to upstate concerns.

The new attitudes toward Mrs. Clinton may be forcing Republicans to reconsider how to deal with an opponent they had until now viewed as an enticing target because of the depth of negative feelings she inspires among large numbers of New York voters.

Independent political analysts say her strong standing may give pause to any big-name Republican thinking about challenging her in 2006, chief among them Rudolph W. Giuliani and Gov. George E. Pataki. In fact, a Quinnipiac poll released earlier this month found that Mrs. Clinton would defeat both Mr. Pataki and Mr. Giuliani in head-to-head contests.

"There isn't a long line of opponents forming to take her on in 2006," said Lee M. Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

But New York Republican leaders say that they are eager to challenge Senator Clinton, especially since Republicans from around the country will almost certainly provide plenty of money and other campaign support to defeat her, as they did in 2000.

New York Republicans also say that the senator has had a free ride so far and that her opponent in the campaign will have an easy time driving up her negative ratings - and halting her rise in the polls - by pointing out what they describe as her poor record of accomplishment and her liberal ideology.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; among; bizzaro; clinton; clintonterm3; deceit; dragonlady; du; election; even; exfirstlady; findhillarysthesis; hildabeast; hillary; hitlery; ladyinred; liarfraud; lurkers; nydummies; popularity; propaganda; psychopath; republicans; saveamerica; state; stophillary; stopthenightmare; troll; trolls; up; world
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200201-219 last
To: Libloather
Not to worry. Our conservative base or the bluedog left voters aren't stupid enough to fall for the "Lipstick on the pig" scenario.

We'd better shore up the voter fraud however, or anything is possible.

201 posted on 02/22/2005 9:44:07 AM PST by SlightOfTongue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather; cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

I don't have time to read the whole thread.

With Chuck winning 71 percent last November, I wouldn't discount the story because it's from the Times.

With pubbies like this we're doomed!


202 posted on 02/22/2005 11:07:34 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

No one called me for my opinion. NEVER would I vote for her, even in a poll........


203 posted on 02/22/2005 11:10:39 AM PST by tioga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 202 | View Replies]

To: John Lenin
there is nothing family value ish about being gay if children are involved

So what? All I said was there there are plenty of things family value ish that do not conflict with gay rights (because they don't involve gays at all).

204 posted on 02/22/2005 11:14:27 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies]

To: SlightOfTongue
You wouldn't want to make a sizable side bet on that would you? Hmmm?

You've taken my quote of out context. If Hillary becomes a real hawk on the border, and Bush stays his course...I might be open to a financial wager...
205 posted on 02/22/2005 11:17:51 AM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 200 | View Replies]

To: jveritas

LOL


206 posted on 02/22/2005 11:18:29 AM PST by Deetes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 199 | View Replies]

To: nj26
John Kerry almost managed to lose a Democratic Senate seat in 1996 in Massachusetts, the most liberal state in the country. He's a lousy politician. Always has been.

So how come he ran unopposed by the pubbies in 2002? Did you inspect the pubbies to ensure that they were castrated?

207 posted on 02/22/2005 11:30:36 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: John Lenin
Anyone who believes this article needs to wake up, this is the NY Timew writing this. Half the staff is gay.

Do you deny the senior senator from NY won by 71 percent last November? I don't want to say his name.

208 posted on 02/22/2005 11:39:04 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Hillary hasn't done anything for New York State.

Ask New Yorkers about Schumer. Schumer is much more popular. I would give him an approval rating over Hillary.

We're all on Hillary watch. This week she went to Iraq and came out with a brand new stance, that we need to stay in Iraq because leaving would give the insurgency the the upper hand. Thank you so much Hillary for stating the obvious, But what about last year when she said that women in Iraq were better off under Saddam than the US intervention?
And that all they had to do was stay out of Saddam's way. NO Hillary, women were not better off. By the Way while in Iraq she met with US soldiers. When one soldier was asked whether or not he would vote for Senator Clinton, his response was "Negative"
209 posted on 02/22/2005 11:58:52 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 202 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

How many New Squares do you think it took to get to 71% ?


210 posted on 02/22/2005 1:45:31 PM PST by John Lenin (Good luck, many have tried, they failed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 208 | View Replies]

To: Cold Heat

You keep on imagining that wedge issues won't split the party...but it's not about splitting the party. It's about attracting the middle and turning out the base. The Republicans turned out their base better than the Rats last time, and pulled more middle votes. And next time, we don't know that will happen. The Clintons got elected to 8 years in the White House, no matter how much vitriol this website and the rest of the right wing poured out, because the Clintons are very good at what they do, and Republicans in their blindness did not nominate a candidate who could appeal to the middle or energize the base.

Your premature declaration of victory is typical of the crowd that thought Dole was a wonderful candidate. You gloss over problems, refusing to prepare and preferring to keep your head up your crack, sticking it out only to spout insults at anyone who says the GOP is remotely wrong on anything. That willful ignorance is how a loser like Dole got nominated. That's how Dole lost against the weakest Rat nominee since Bryan.

I anticipated more smartass remarks which just ignored my comments, but thought optimistically. Not surprisingly, I got the smartass remarks. Unlike you, I learn from experience and criticism instead of ignoring it. I shouldn't have bothered, then, and don't worry about me bothering with your posts in the future. You've convinced me of that with the pages of sanctimonious blathering about Buchanan and Dobbs which you posted. I attempted to respond to your initial insulting little screed without being too harsh, but your continuing pride in your willful ignorance, er, "wisdom," is proof I shouldn't bother. Goodbye.

"A change of opinions is almost unknown in an elderly military man." - G.K. Chesterton


211 posted on 02/22/2005 2:08:49 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 176 | View Replies]

To: John Lenin
How many New Squares do you think it took to get to 71% ?

LOL!

I believe it is a combination of three things. Many folks have had it and left NY. Those who left are being replaced with idiots. The RINOs in NY are so bad we have our own Conservative Party.

In NYC, I recently heard that 4 out 10 residents were born in another country.

The following pdf link shows annual population growth by state. NY State is 6th from last for the period 1970 - 2002.

http://niip.wsu.edu/unitedstates/comuspdf/pdcPopus.pdf

212 posted on 02/22/2005 2:17:31 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 210 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I have no faith in election totals anymore, W didn't come to CA once to campaign though he did spend a lot money on TV adds. It might be better to fix the immigration policies than do what we are doing now. I have no faith in the RATS, who knows what they will do if they lose anymore elections.


213 posted on 02/22/2005 2:23:51 PM PST by John Lenin (It's the things below the surface that you can't erase)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 212 | View Replies]

To: LibertarianInExile
Must have hit a real nerve with the Dobbs comments.

Too bad. Libertines are so easy to infuriate. I have a lot of experience.

BTW, I never did like Dole and new he was a bust. Never have understood why they anointed him. As to the rest, (and I don't give a squat what you think of me, but I do have a opinion of you).....I think you are wrong.

This election will be different. The Dems are going to split as well.

Who ever splits less, will win.

214 posted on 02/22/2005 5:53:19 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 211 | View Replies]

To: MeekOneGOP; Smartass; Boazo

215 posted on 02/22/2005 6:21:28 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | View Replies]

To: potlatch
Hillary getting popular??

Don't even start with me. To think we may be the launching pad for the nightmare of '08 gives me a migraine.

216 posted on 02/22/2005 7:05:08 PM PST by ntnychik (Proud member of the Bush-eoisie)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: ntnychik

They've got to start their propaganda early!


217 posted on 02/22/2005 8:39:32 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 216 | View Replies]

To: PhilDragoo
Hillary sittin' on her Throne. What a hoot!


218 posted on 02/23/2005 2:32:18 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 215 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

A "Gee, I missed this dogbarf of an article too" BUMP!


219 posted on 03/08/2005 4:40:44 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary talking about the bible is as hypocritical as Bill carrying one out of church for 8 years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200201-219 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson