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Many Africans see U.S. as distant savior
Kansas City Star ^ | 2/21/2005 | BRYAN MEALER

Posted on 02/21/2005 11:30:33 AM PST by Southack

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1 posted on 02/21/2005 11:30:36 AM PST by Southack
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To: wretchard; Howlin; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

2 posted on 02/21/2005 11:31:24 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Ummm...
Maybe because we ARE???


3 posted on 02/21/2005 11:34:01 AM PST by srm913
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To: Southack

The real mission in Africa is killing off Mugabe.

Regards, Ivan


4 posted on 02/21/2005 11:34:17 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
"The real mission in Africa is killing off Mugabe."

Hear, hear!

5 posted on 02/21/2005 11:35:00 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Bring the appreciative ones over through proper immigration and send the unappreciative ones here back.
6 posted on 02/21/2005 11:36:09 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: Southack

Until the people living there decide that they wish to be free, democratic, and willingly enter the 21st Century, all our efforts on the African continent are doomed to failure from the start.


7 posted on 02/21/2005 11:36:29 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: clee1

Message to Africa:

CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE!


8 posted on 02/21/2005 11:37:38 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: clee1

Ditto, we'll pull someone out of office their, insert someone and then we find ourselves at a later date pulling that person out to insert a new person, just a continuous duty.


9 posted on 02/21/2005 11:38:00 AM PST by Brian328i
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To: clee1

Thank you. "God saves those who save themselves."


10 posted on 02/21/2005 11:38:19 AM PST by oh8eleven
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To: clee1
Until the people living there decide that they wish to be free, democratic, and willingly enter the 21st Century, all our efforts on the African continent are doomed to failure from the start.

Do you think Africans have not shown this?

There were people who stood in line for days in the attempt to vote Mugabe out of office, without lots of food/water, and under threat of violence by Mugabe supporters.

11 posted on 02/21/2005 11:40:28 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: MadIvan

At his age of 80(?) it might be too late: he's not going to last much longer anyway.


12 posted on 02/21/2005 11:40:35 AM PST by GSlob
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Sorry, but a vote doesn't mean very much in some cases. Especially when the people counting the votes are more interested in personal power over service to their country.

Before a vote becomes meaningful, the tyrants MUST overthrown and put to death.

13 posted on 02/21/2005 11:43:07 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: xm177e2

And, you can apply that same prescription to our homegrown, would-be tyrants.


14 posted on 02/21/2005 11:44:28 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: clee1
Until the people living there decide that they wish to be free, democratic, and willingly enter the 21st Century, all our efforts on the African continent are doomed to failure from the start

And until those goals are met,sending them weapons would be the WORSE thing we could do-anyhow,when it comes to America,no good deed goes unpunished-we'd end being blamed for neo-colonialism or something.
15 posted on 02/21/2005 11:44:42 AM PST by mrsmel (Parallel our sights,And we will find, that we, we need, to be, where we, belong)
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To: mrsmel

Exactly right.

American motives, even when pure, are ALWAYS suspect in the 3rd world crapholes.


16 posted on 02/21/2005 11:46:53 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: clee1
Before a vote becomes meaningful, the tyrants MUST overthrown and put to death.

Yes, and before they could worry about accomplishing a little thing like that,they had to first make sure to kill or run out of the country the farmers who were producing the food for the people. Now Mugabe's cronies and family have the land,they even take it away from the people they were supposedly killing the farmers to give it to,nothing is produced,and the country is in famine.

And on top of that, Mugabe has the audacity to demand that the West send food and aid.
17 posted on 02/21/2005 11:51:09 AM PST by mrsmel (Parallel our sights,And we will find, that we, we need, to be, where we, belong)
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To: clee1
Sorry, but a vote doesn't mean very much in some cases

I thought you wanted to see that Africans wanted to be free. If they were all Free, they wouldn't need American help, would they?

18 posted on 02/21/2005 11:52:57 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2

Everyone wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die.

EVERYBODY wants to be free - too few are willing to FIGHT for their freedom. It is too easy to let Uncle Sam do it for them.

BULLSQUEEZE!

A relative handful of American patriots pledged to each other their Lives, Fortunes, and their Sacred Honor. After winning their independence ON THE BATTLEFIELD, they then founded the mose free society that the planet has ever known.

Before ONE AMERICAN life is lost in Africa, I'd like to see a popular military uprising against the tyrants. The Civil Rights protests were sucessful because America was already free, and the average citizen was outraged by the brutality arrayed against peaceful protestors. In Africa "peaceful protestors" are "targets".


19 posted on 02/21/2005 12:00:18 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Bring the appreciative ones over through proper immigration and send the unappreciative ones here back.


It's completely impossible to send someone "back" to where they have never been.


20 posted on 02/21/2005 12:05:42 PM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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