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To: orionblamblam
from decades removed.

Once again showing your absolute ignorance of how ancient documents are tested. Decades means that many people were still alive who could easily expose Josephus as a liar, or any of the other multiple sources of information about Jesus, and His crucifixion. But guess what? No one did.

btw, have you found any sources authenticating authorship of Caesar's Gallic Wars only 'decades removed?' I think not.

And about that 'forgeries' stuff.........that phony accusation that I called the Gallic Wars forgeries (i.e. your baldfaced lie about it)...... it proves my point entirely.

If you accept the Gallic Wars as authentic and written by Caesar, and scoff at me for asking you to document that they are, then your refusal to accept 10 times the documentation on the reality of the historic Jesus, is a towering double standard.

If you can come up with the kind of documentation that has been provided to you about Jesus within CENTURIES of Caesar's life, I'll be surprised.

You have lost on the basis of the historic evidence, orion. You'll have to come up with a different excuse for rejecting Christ, and ridiculing His followers.

194 posted on 02/23/2005 8:24:40 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: ohioWfan
If you can come up with the kind of documentation that has been provided to you about Jesus within CENTURIES of Caesar's life, I'll be surprised.

I would too, as I've never heard of any reports granting Julius Ceasar supernatural powers.

In any event, here's historical evidence for Julius Caesar, from *right* *then.*

#7169 aF/aF Julius Caesar and Mark Antony Dual Portrait Denarius $137
Attribution: Craw 488/2
Date: 43 BC
Obverse: Julius Caesar right, jug behind
Reverse: Mark Antony right
Size: 18.09 mm
Weight: 3.1 grams
Rarity: 7
Description: A well worn denarius but a clear portrait of Julius Caesar

a postumous portrait of Julius Caesar

Silver denarius, S 1407, Cr. 480/3, Syd. 1056, RSC 34, near EF, 3.56g, 19.3mm, 180o, Rome mint, Jan - Feb 44 B.C.; obverse CAESAR IMP, Caesar's wreathed head right, lituus and culullus behind head; reverse M•METELLVS, Venus holding Victory and transverse scepter, resting elbow on shield set on base or helmet, G (control mark) in left field

This coin declares Caesar, Dictator for Life. He did serve as Dictator for the remainder of his life, but his life would end only a few weeks after this issue. For Caesar to put his image on coins and essentially declare himself king was too much for Brutus and his republican allies. This coin (along with other similar types) is sometimes called "the coin that killed Caesar." This coin was minted for Caesar's projected Parthian war. Specimens of this type were often carelessly struck indicating the mint was working under great pressure.
5338. Silver denarius, S 1413, Syd 1072, Craw 480/10, RSC 38, EF, wonderful portrait, 3.81g, 19.7mm, 190o, Rome mint, moneyer P Sepullius Macer, Jan-Feb 44 B.C.; obverse CAESAR DICT PERPETVO, wreathed head of Caesar right; reverse P SEPVLLIVS MACER, Venus standing left holding Victory and scepter, shield at feet right; flat strike areas

196 posted on 02/23/2005 9:53:05 PM PST by orionblamblam
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To: ohioWfan
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JULIUS CAESAR AR silver denarius. Lifetime portrait issue, struck February-March, 44 BC. 3.4g, large 19mm flan. CAESAR IMPER, laureate head right, Lituus and simpulum behind/ M. METTIVS, Venus standing left, holding Victory. Control letter 'G' in lower left field. RCV 1407, valued at $960 in VF. Very interesting banker's mark, perhaps a monogram, on Caesar's neck. Small test cut above Caesar's head.Circular banker's mark in right reverse field. anker's mark on Caesar's neck. Rare! Significant wear, but a clear portrait of this historical giant. 709857.

JULIUS CAESAR DICTATOR AR silver portrait denarius. CAESAR DICT PERPETUO, Julius' laureate head right / P SEPVLLIVS MACER, Venus standing left with victory and shield. Syd 1072.. Struck January-February 44BC. These portrait issue coins, along with assumption of 'Dictator for Life', (also shown on this coin) are among the major reasons Caesar was assassinated by the Liberators (Brutus, Cassius, and the gang).

(60) Julius Caesar and Marcus Mettius - AR denarius, 44 B.C., 3.78 g. (inv. 91.106).
Obverse: Laureate head of Julius Caesar r., with long neck; CAESAR IMPER(ATOR): Caesar, imperator.
Reverse: Venus Victrix walking l., holding small Victoria in l. and spear in r., with shield at l. side; monogram in l. field; M METTIVS: Marcus Mettius (mint magistrate).
Provenance: Edward Gans, 1959.
Bibliography: J.P.C. Kent, Roman Coins (London 1978) 17.


Bust of Caesar, probably based on his death mask.

Caesar, Museo della Civilta, Rome

Caesar, c. 60 BCE


Arrr. Time to go to bed.
197 posted on 02/23/2005 9:59:36 PM PST by orionblamblam
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