Holiday Scenes in Islam - (need strong stomach to view these!)

Reuters | FEBRUARY 20, 2005 | Reuters

[CHARLITE]

Sat Feb 19, 8:10 PM ET
Holy ceremony : An Iraqi Muslim Shiites walks alone outisde Imam Mussa al-Kazem in central Baghdad, after he flagellated himself during the peak of Ashura, which marks the death of Imam Hussein, grandson of Prophet Mohammed. (AFP/Karim Sahib)

Sat Feb 19, 7:11 PM ET
For Imam Hussein : An Iraqi Muslim Shiite boy flagellates himself outside Imam Mussa al-Kazem shrine.

Sat Feb 19, 6:04 PM ET
Iraqi Muslim Shiites flagellate themselves.

Sat Feb 19,10:04 AM ET
Iraqi Shi'ite men bleed as they make a cut on their heads with swords on the last day of the religious ceremony of Ashura, in the holy city of Kerbala, February 19, 2005. REUTERS/Ceerwan Aziz

Sat Feb 19, 7:24 AM ET
Iraqi Shi'ite men bleed heavily as they cut their heads with swords during the religious ceremony of Ashura, outside the holy shrines of Imam al-Hussein and al-Abbass in the city of Kerbala February 19, 2005. Crowds of pilgrims moved through Baghdad's streets, some beat themselves with metal chains as is the custom for Ashura.

Sat Feb 19, 2:56 AM ET An Iraqi Shi'ite man makes a cut on the head of a young boy with a sword during the last day of the religious ceremony of Ashura in the holy city of Kerbala February 19, 2005. As the crowds of pilgrims moved through Baghdad's streets, some beat themselves with metal chains as is the custom for Ashura, when devout Shi'ites commemorate the suffering of Imam Hussein, prophet Mohammed's grandson, who was killed in battle near Kerbala in 680 A.D. REUTERS/Ali Jasim

[The Great RJ]

Self flagellation was practiced by Christian cults during the Medieval period. The practice still exists in Spain.

[nothingnew]

So what's worse? Cutting the kids up (in one religion) or buggering 'em and getting away with it (another religion)?

At least if they cut 'em up a lot more they won't survive to be bus bombers or jetplane divers...

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul.

FMCDH(BITS)

[jeremiah]

They may nail themselves to crosses, but the numbers of them doing so are very small, and mainstream Christianity calls them nuts. In Islam large numbers do this, and they are called righteous.

[-=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-]

""Somehow, I have a hard time believing that God wants His children to mutilate themselves in this idiotic manner."

Any idea why some Christians might?"


duuno. I think some people need to remember that you are save by GRACE, not work. Making yourself bleed, no matter how extreme, will never get you into heaven.

[null and void]

Bingo.

[MissAmericanPie]

Go back a few more centuries to the worship of Baal and you have the origins this tradition. The prophet Elijah had a few problems with Jezebel and people just like this. Western politicians best buy a clue about the mindset and origins of Islam.

[Fred Nerks]

This Shia tradition of self punishment is practiced in atonement for the death in 680AD of one individual, the grandson of mohammad. There is no connection to Baal.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Fred Nerks]

Baal, God of Thunder.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/baal.htm

[jan in Colorado]

>>>>>I know what Reuters is up to. Reuters is telling us, 'Look at whom you gave freedom; a bunch of bl**dy barbarians'.
Sorry Reuters, it doesn't work. The Shia might be bleeding, but your preferred Dictator poisoned a village, filled mass-graves, put people into shredders, etc.<<<,


Fred, thanks for giving me a Whole new perspective on how to look at this!

[broadsword]

I look at this parade of the very lowest of human debris and have to say, "What a filthy pile of shiite!"

We DON'T need them here. Our diversity is our stench. I will never celebrate it.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Religion of peace, indeed.

Thanks for the ping.

[kstewskis]

I wonder how many of these guys pass out before the end of the parade route?

[Fred Nerks]

Time for the blinky cat, but I lost the addy...

[voteconstitutionparty]

It's hard to find one of the former Spanish colonies that doesn't have some of this bloody salvation through suffering excess.

[Old Professer]

They don't call it a sacrament for nothing.

[Fred Nerks]

Look on the bright side. Now that Iraq is free, many Iraqi families will choose to return to their home country. In a way, that's a pity because the Iraqi immigrants in Australia have not caused any problems. Can't say the same for the arabs from other ME countries however.

[Old Professer]

Mutilation is barbaric whatever the method; arrogance would have been a better choice of words for this article serves to elucidate the heretofore ignorant.

[CHARLITE]

When you see that last photo of the old man about to slash the kid's head with a knife, you realize that if they're perfectly happy to commit this kind of carnage upon their own people, their own children, then it's clear as a bell that the notion of beheading "infidels" is a normal idea for them.

As the sometimes annoying O'Reilly would say, "Where am I going wrong here?"

[Valin]

Remember freedom means the freedom to do stupid things.