As long as we need their labor and they need our jobs they will continue to find ways to get here.
The Tijuana border is already heavily fortified with fences, patrol roads, helicopters, ATV patrols, motion detectors, horse patrols, floodlights, UAVs...etc.... And still they come by the tens of thousands.
But if the people of California wanted to stop the laborers from coming they very easily could simply by busting the people who employ the illegal laborers.
President Bush has authorized state and local agencies to enforce immigration laws and has set up an 8 week training program to train them.
But the fact of life is that the people in California do not want to stop illegal immigrant ion.
The conservative posters from California have been complaining for years about illegal immigrants and not a single one of them has organized any type effort to get their local police to bust the employers.
What about the labor of LEGAL immigrants? Mexicans are welcome to come here. Just as long as they have papers.
Now some will say, but we need illegals to sustain the economy, migrant farmers and what have you. The truth is, while we may have less expensive food prices because of illegals we have much higher taxes paying for their healthcare ect. Illegals do not pay taxes.
You know, I get really sick of your
saying its impossible to close the border.
You have done this on other threads
No it is not.
Our military, and some kind of a guest worker
program in addition to enforcing laws that are
already in place to go after companies that hire
illegals is not impossible.
My concerns about the border have mainly to do with
not allowing terrorists in here.
Who knows who's crossed in here since 9/11.
It just takes DOING!
It's not the job of the local police to enforce immigration rules. However, Californians for years have been begging the INS, now ICE, to clamp down on employers. You got it wrong again.
I was originally going to start off with "you are SO full of cra*!". But you seem to have an honestly held opinion so I'll just try to point out why you are so wrong:
We passed 'English Only' and had it squelched.
We, the ones posting here, vote consistently for anything that sounds like it'd slow criminal immigration, primarily from mexico.
We, the ones posting here, are in general outnumbered by california's famed socialist majority.
Criminal mexicans send Billions each year back to mexico, they don't spend it here, and the mexican government (sic) is so reliant on that income that they REPORT it and they encourage it.
(If anyone in the USA 'needs' criminal immigration it is the Banks who now brag about how easy they make it to send money "home'.)
We have police & public safety agencies who are afraid to arrest minorities of any kind lest they be mobbed, jailed, or at the least made to spend years defending themselves in court.
We have one of the most liberal Republican governors in the states - and thank God daily for that slight improvement!We have neighbors to the east (my home of record) who are in jail and/or being hounded for attempting to do something about immigration that just happens to use the US Intelligence Center and School as one of its main avenues for entry.
As to wages; the absence of ILLEGAL immigrants, willing to undercut salaries because they'd be starving back home) would force improvements in a dozen industries...so 'Americans not willing to do the work' would no longer apply.
The minimal taxes paid by ILLEGALS are far outweighed by the welfare and other social costs of supporting their families and/or their need/penchant for using taxpayer supported services instead of paying for it themselves.
I've personally had to pay (via insurance and cash) for two accidents caused by uninsured aliens who could not be traced by their state issued identification...one of whom was supposed to be living in a halfway house (but wasn't).
At root, immigration is a federal duty but a local concern...until the suburbs of Washington DC are overrun by spanish speaking thugs nothing will happen unless conservative voters can make their voices heard.
And I don't count on much happening to improve matters so long as we have a president, much as I support and respect him, who owes his political career to his ability to gather sufficient Mex-Tex votes to be a force in the Texas valley.
That is not a fact of life, it is merely your opinion. I'm sure the great majority of Californians would like to have all illegal immigration stopped. Futhermore, in spite of lefty fantasies to the contrary, we could get along just fine without any illegal immigrants. And you can't "bust" employers until you give them the means to verify job applicants' right to work.
It's impossible to close the border.
Nothing is impossible Vicente.
So this Mexican demanding accountablity from his government is asking too much?
Total, unabashed nonsense. But if you repeat it often enough, you might just start believing it.
Unfortunately this is not true. It sounds good, but in practice there are hundreds of thousands of employeers who look the other way or don't look hard enough at documentation. They would have to have a change of heart to do what you suggest is easy. It is far easier to employ people and see if they work hard and know their business. Just like landlords who don't always run credit checks before renting. The "easy" side is the lazy side.
False.
It can be done.
And should be done.