Posted on 02/18/2005 9:31:24 PM PST by technomage
Mexico announced Friday it has suspended permits for a U.S. research vessel conducting sound-wave experiments in the Gulf after the ship ran aground on a coral reef and damaged it.
Mexico's Environment Department said the U.S. ship Maurice Ewing must stop the research voyage until it pays for damage done to underwater rock formations and coral about 30 miles off the Yucatan peninsula in the Monday accident.
"This is a precautionary measures to ensure the ship pays the damages and fines," said Attorney General for Environmental Protection Jose Luis Luege.
Officials with Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, which is in charge of operating the Maurice Ewing, had no immediate comment.
The ship is using the underwater seismic pulses to explore the Chicxulub Crater, a depression about 120 miles wide just outside the port of Progreso, 190 miles west of Cancun. Experts believe a comet or asteroid carved the crater 65 million years ago, coinciding with the mass extinction of species, including the dinosaur.
Environmentalists welcomed the halt to the ship's activities. The argue that the technology could harm sea life, including whales, which use sound waves to communicate.
"We have to make fun of modern, sophisticated ship that has technology capable of registering every bump on the sea floor, but which can't even see a reef," said Araceli Dominguez of the Mayab Ecological Group.
"We have to make fun of modern, sophisticated ship that has technology capable of registering every bump on the sea floor, but which can't even see a reef," said Araceli Dominguez of the Mayab Ecological Group.
--> Sorry mr Dominguez, but you should be laughing at yourself... The ship is driven by people, not the machines, maybe that's why the ship didn't see the reefer!
until it pays for damage done to underwater rock formations
sounds fair enough, we should tell them that we are suspending any more of their illegal entrants until they pay for damages they create on our borders.
Obviously not an "approved" research vessel.
Sorry 'bout that reef thingie. I reckon that skipper shoulda been more carefullier.
Now, about these damages you're seeking. Tell ya what, bud, we'll hop right on that there- right after you pay us for educatin, doctorin, and policin all the trash you been sendin up here.
Tell the ole lady I said howdy.
Your Pal,
W
Yeah, wouldn't that be great if W did say that to F? I wonder what he's waiting for? I mean if one is conservative, as W is, you would think that you would be getting a little tired of all the Mexican bovine fecal matter.
Wishful thinking, I know. But, you gotta have a dream...
Excellent point. Direct economic costs (up front costs, from an economic perspective). Indirect and follow on costs, etc. Law enforcement costs. Costs of documented crimes, etc. Victim's (sing.) and Victims' (plural) compensation. Medical costs and health care costs for strictly "illegal" types need to be carefully accounted for also.
Do we have any Cost Accountants qualified to create a comprehensive and truthful economic report as to all the direct and indirect economic damages done unto us as a Nation by "certain and unspecified" policies? Do we have any qualified Cost Accountants with an extremely, masterful command of Excel? What needs to be carefully examined is the exact, precise economic data surrounding this issue.
BTW, once the information has been dutifully compiled, let us then compare pro-forma invoices with the alleged damages mentioned by the Plaintiff for alleged "damage done to underwater rock formations"....
Ah, yeah. What you said. BTW lots of folks seem to forget that we bailed out mexico, hughly and seriesly, along with russia, I think during the 80's.
These countries are like the punk teenager (like most of our foreign aid recipients) "You're a nazi! I hate you!.. Can I have the car and 20 bucks?
Did anyone else just hear that mousefart?
Oh yeah!!...like Mexicans are environmentalists!!!...Go check out San Gabriel Canyon above Azusa on Sunday night!!!!
As I see it, it's like giving a 20 year old rebel a Platinum Card with a $30K limit, a fast sports car and a pile of cash, plus the shiftless punk says he will kick your a$$, if given the chance. (As if he had the training)
OK. Fair enough.
Where is the demonstrated responsibility for starters? To be given little and to have done well with it and come back with a good AAR /report is good. To be given much and be offered a kick in the "pills" is not to be "appreciated."
A response 'could' or 'may' be forthcoming, and why not? No one escapes justice.
What I am getting at is a Reckoning. They harshly judge us for what could be considered to be a relatively small matter, yet, we may keep careful track of 'other matters.'
On balance, if they try to judge us for this incident, can we not retaliate with a stronger case, with the preponderance of evidence on our side?
There actually is an old saying, believe it or not, I find it hard to believe, that "good fences make good neighbors or something to that effect. Imagine someone B & E'ing into your house, forcing his way inside, that really would be an event to say the least.
So much for manners in this day and age. Time to take Emily Post, toss her out the old window and put on some boxing gloves. Get ready.
At any rate, right now, to begin, we need some good Cost Accountants to start keeping careful track, so when the economic battle numbers start flying, we can CRUSH them with incontrovertible data.
"Yeah, wouldn't that be great if W did say that to F? I wonder what he's waiting for? I mean if one is conservative, as W is, you would think that you would be getting a little tired of all the Mexican bovine fecal matter."
That's sarcasm, right?
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