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Experts: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables
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Posted on 02/18/2005 5:00:53 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Drew68
It ain't the ship, it's the NAME.
To: Sub-Driver
Did a northern run on the Bergall in 1988....one time blue nose ;)
To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
I am surprised this isn't ZOTTED already!
Umm...that we've done this with previous espionage subs was documented in extreme detail in a bestselling book years ago.
It's like some analyst speculating that the Joint Strike Fighter might be able to drop bombs that explode.
To: Mad Mammoth
It ain't the ship, it's the NAME. If I was a bubblehead, I'd love to be billeted on the Jimmy Carter. Why? Because she's brand-spankin' new!
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:30:32 PM PST
by
Drew68
To: Mad Mammoth
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:31:05 PM PST
by
Drew68
To: Paul_Denton
And WHO THE F*** would name a ship after one of the WORST presidents in history!?Guess?
April 2, 1998
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:31:20 PM PST
by
SmithL
(Proud Submariner)
To: Drew68
Say what one may about his disastrous presidency, this honor cannot be taken away from him.Yeah? Well John Glenn used to be an honorable American hero until he sold his reputation and honor. For the price of one last rocket ride, he obstructed the Senate investigation into Communist Chinese campaign contributions to the Democrat party. That stunt lost him his hero status. He is just another disgracefully sleazy retired politician now.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:31:38 PM PST
by
EricT.
(Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
To: Drew68
I'm thinking of the potential that this ship can do to reverse the disastrous actions and policies of its namesake. It's delicious irony that Carter acts today to harm our country while the sub keeps us strong in spite of him.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:31:46 PM PST
by
Thebaddog
(Dawgs off the coffee table.)
To: EricT.
He always was a sleazy poltician, we just found out about it when Clinton used him like a doormat.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:32:51 PM PST
by
Thebaddog
(Dawgs off the coffee table.)
To: Thebaddog
It's delicious irony that Carter acts today to harm our country while the sub keeps us strong in spite of him. Well put.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:32:56 PM PST
by
Drew68
To: Drew68
I guess you never saw one of these. The last line applies to Jimmy Carter's entire presidency.
To: chasio649
Blue nose ping...spring of '80/fall of '81
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:34:57 PM PST
by
seadevil
(after a 4 year hiatus from FR, I have returned)
To: Drew68
>>>
And Carter, lest we forget, was a naval officer and a submariner who served honorably. Say what one may about his disastrous presidency, this honor cannot be taken away from him. <<< You miss the point. The boat was named "Jimmy Carter" because he was President - thus honoring his Presidency. It was not so named because he was a sub-mariner.
"Lest we forget", Jimmy Carter's watch saw the first real Islamic attack against the United States - 44 US citizens held for 440 days - Carter did nothing until it appeared that his tenure as President was threatened and then pulled off the most ham-fisted military operation the US has seen in recent history.
He presided over an economic "malaise" with interest rates approaching 20% (actually I think they may have touched 21%) and simply wrung his hands over the first of the oil crises, telling everyone to wear sweaters.
There will be brave sailors serving on the Jimmy Carter, but the astute will request transfer to another boat!
To: Drew68
I am a former Naval Officer, as well. I would like a more warlike or patriotic name for the sub.
But we are going to need more subs, since Carter gave North Korea the deal to enable them to have nukes.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:38:05 PM PST
by
shubi
(Peace through superior firepower.)
To: Drew68
Great picture, BTW.
Thanks, it's one of my favorites. I do want to qualify any remarks I have made or will make in the future regarding this particular boat, I have nothing but admiration and undying respect for each and every submariner who has ever sailed, is sailing or will sail in a United States submarine (with the exception of one, and ONLY one individual and you all can guess who I'm talking about). I was at NAVSEASYSCOM in the late 70's (during the infamous Carter years) and I can tell you that the 924 Submarine Directorate took no pride in the fact that Carter, a former submariner, happened to make it to the White House.
It's my understanding (based on a lot of third party conversations) that even Rickover himself was damn disappointed in Carter, even though Carter kept exempting him from the mandatory retirement requirements.
If I were assigned to this boat, I would refer to it only as the 'TWENTY THREE' (as in SSN 23), because there was never a U.S. submarine launched that would do nothing but fight until there was nothing left to fight with, contrary to the appeasement and foolishness of the 39th chief executive for which this boat is named after.
Evening rant mode off.
Regards,
MM
To: Sub-Driver
Just a quick reminder for those of you following the Carter's commissioning on TV:
Jimmy Carter never served on a nuke sub. He was educated as a nuclear (or 'nucular' as the ex-pres would say), but never served a day in the nuke sub fleet. The first one didn't even exist until a year after he left the navy.
To: Sub-Driver
I thought old subs did that as well.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:42:39 PM PST
by
Cold Heat
(What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
To: Sub-Driver
I' sure it has the capability, but I fear that it may develop a general malaise
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:46:30 PM PST
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
To: Sub-Driver
Any reader of modern spy/war books by a good author knows it.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:46:32 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: Drew68
He may be correct, he may be full of it. While his first book was quite good, he went downhill rapidly. He is pretty much full of it at this point. Stay far away from his newer stuff and any of his talking-head news appearances.
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posted on
02/18/2005 5:48:18 PM PST
by
killjoy
(Real Men Love Bush)
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