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Bush Signs Bill Curbing Class-Action Suits
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 2/18/2005 | Jesse J. Holland

Posted on 02/18/2005 9:17:32 AM PST by Pyro7480

Bush Signs Bill Curbing Class-Action Suits

By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Friday signed a bill that he says will curtail multimillion-dollar class action lawsuits against companies and "marks a critical step toward ending the lawsuit culture in our country."

The legislation aims to discourage multimillion-dollar class-action lawsuits by having federal judges take them away from state courts, a victory for conservatives who hope it will lead to other lawsuit limits. The president has described class-action suits as often frivolous, and businesses complain that state judges and juries have been too generous to plaintiffs.

"This bill helps fix the system," Bush said in the East Room of the White House, his first bill signing ceremony this year. "Congress has done it's duty."

But during the brief ceremony, Bush repeatedly described the bill as just a beginning in his drive to place much broader restraints on the American legal system.

"We're making important progress toward a better legal system," he said. "There's more to do. ... We have a responsibility to confront frivolous lawsuits head-on."

Under the legislation, class-action suits seeking $5 million or more would be heard in state court only if the primary defendant and more than one-third of the plaintiffs are from the same state. But if fewer than one-third of the plaintiffs are from the same state as the primary defendant, and more than $5 million is at stake, the case would go to federal court.

Consumer groups and trial lawyers fought against the bill, but lost their struggle when Republicans gained seats in last fall's elections and Democrats defected on the issue.

"The House of Representatives joined the Senate in sending a clear message to the nation: the rights of large corporations that take advantage of seniors, low-wage workers and local communities are more important than the rights of average American citizens," said Helen Gonzales of USAction, a liberal, pro-consumer activist group.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bill; billsigning; bush; bush43; classaction; lawsuits; lawyers; reform; term2; tort; tortreform
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To: ohioWfan
"Rush was just talking about how badly this hurts the RAT party and their fundraising and trial lawyer support."

It hurts them in the long run, but in the short run those trial lawyers are still just as rich and *far* more motivated against us than ever before.

But in 5 years, they'll have far less money to spend against us.

21 posted on 02/18/2005 9:41:53 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Pyro7480

And the crack on the liberal world grows yet larger! Hoorah!


22 posted on 02/18/2005 9:42:50 AM PST by Fledermaus (I Googled "Democrat+Sane" and got no hits.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
>On the other hand, it's not like you did any of the work in the lawsuit to recover the overcharge.

Exactly. Anytime one is rewarded for doing nothing, problems insue.
23 posted on 02/18/2005 9:44:09 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: Pyro7480

The Dems are still howling about the "Serious Election Irregularities" in 2004. Seems like this bill would have casued more howling from the crowd that deigns personal responsibility.

I haven't heard them moan a peep about this - which makes me think it won't amount to much..


24 posted on 02/18/2005 9:46:48 AM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: Southack

Nobody will see lower prices or charges for services because of this Bill. As much as I applaud President Bush and the Congress for getting this bill passed and signed, we will all continue to pay more for goods and services.

If we do, please feel free to remind me that I was wrong.


25 posted on 02/18/2005 9:46:51 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: ohioWfan
Rush was just talking about how badly this hurts the RAT party and their fundraising and trial lawyer support. This is absolutely delicious on several levels.

How does this hurt Dimms among lawyers??

26 posted on 02/18/2005 9:51:24 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: ohioWfan
Glad I live in a BIG RED State!


27 posted on 02/18/2005 9:57:39 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Pyro7480

It's really too bad that they quoted an opponent (from what might be called a 'special-interest group')as to why this is bad -- but the administration doesn't bother to tell us why it is good. (Either that, or the 'reporter' didn't bother to tell us so.) This is a VERY important development.


28 posted on 02/18/2005 10:00:48 AM PST by Shazolene
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To: Pyro7480
What was wrong with a justified lawsuit settlement of say $4000000.23


The $40000000.00 goes to the lawyers and the .023 cents goes to the victim.


This will put a major crimp in DNC funding, gotta love it!
29 posted on 02/18/2005 10:02:18 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: TChris
I'm not sure I understand how this will curb class-action suits. Are the federal courts automatically tougher on plaintiffs?

Yes....I heard Rush say that the states are MUCH more generous in awards.

30 posted on 02/18/2005 10:03:55 AM PST by Torties
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To: Southack

I think the next 48 month list is going to be longer and even better, but I always appreciate you reminding us of why we re-elected Dubya.


31 posted on 02/18/2005 10:12:19 AM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
"I am a plaintiff in a case involving supposed overcharges by American Express. I get $3.00. The lawyers got 8 million. Screw-um."

"On the other hand, it's not like you did any of the work in the lawsuit to recover the overcharge."

If the "award" to the plaintiffs was going to be that paltry then why bother? The point is that the looting lawyers couldn't care less about the plaintiffs, they are just a necessary evil as far as they are concerned. The lawyers just raised phone rates for everyone.

These cases are random, and it is more about who has deep pockets than who did anything wrong. Businesses call it "the cost of doing business" and simply charge consumers more to cover it. The only incentive that is created for business is to do business elsewhere, and that means more jobs leaving the country. The lawyers get rich and are ultimately paid by the consumers they are so piously claiming to protect. No wonder they are the heros of the Democrats: they screw every body and get rich in the process.
32 posted on 02/18/2005 10:19:06 AM PST by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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To: ohioWfan

Don't you love watching critics from either side silenced? LOL

Feels nice to win a domestic battle so early.


33 posted on 02/18/2005 10:29:13 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: stopem

No, it means they'll be heard in Federal Court. It's easier to put a cap or some kind of restraint on Federal suits than state. It's a small win but a win none the less.


34 posted on 02/18/2005 10:33:33 AM PST by BJClinton (Kinky Friedman for Governor: Why the hell not?)
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To: Pyro7480

Some of the class-action lawyers become so rich that they buy mansions in gated communities where you and I are not allowed. At the same time, some companies which they sued have had to lay off workers and cut back on production, which means less people working and paying taxes. It hurts us all.


35 posted on 02/18/2005 10:57:56 AM PST by kitkat (Our Founding Fathers are PROUD of Pres. George W. Bush)
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To: WmDonovan
If the "award" to the plaintiffs was going to be that paltry then why bother?

To make a long story short: they don't necessarily know how many plaintiffs there are or how much they were injured when the suit was initially filed. That is discovered over the course of the litigation, so by the end they divide up Y dollars amongst X plaintiffs, and it ends up being $3.00 or $300 or $30,000 apiece. Anybody who has a claim which they know to be more than paltry is welcome to opt out of a class action and file their own independent lawsuit.

In addition, even if a large company harms a million people for $5 apiece, they have still committed legally recognizable harm to the amount of $5,000,000. If lawyers bring a class action lawsuit, do all the work, put up (almost) all the fees and expenses, and collect a reasonable fee of 25%, they end up with $1,250,000.

That sounds like a pile of money, but, on the other hand, it's a fee of $1.25 apiece for a million clients, each of whom they managed to recover funds for. The company lost what it stole in the first place; the customers managed to get a refund (which they would not have been otherwise able to get) minus a reasonable attorney's fee; the attorneys were compensated for the labor and risk.

Many class-action lawsuits are justified; many are ill-founded or ridiculous. Continuing reform of this powerful legal tool is an excellent idea; moving more class actions to federal court is a good start.

36 posted on 02/18/2005 11:03:00 AM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: kitkat
Some of the class-action lawyers become so rich that they buy mansions in gated communities where you and I are not allowed.

All else aside, class warfare rhetoric like "X is so rich that he lives in a gated community where you and I are not allowed" is silly.

Many Freepers buy things called "their houses" where you and I are not allowed. The rich don't get to have private property too?

37 posted on 02/18/2005 11:06:03 AM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: Pyro7480

LOL, I just had a lawyer in my office whining about this! He was going on and on about how the drug companies won't care who they hurt and kill with poorly researched drugs now because they don't have to worry about big lawsuits. They can blame their own greed for this bill.


38 posted on 02/18/2005 11:44:36 AM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

It takes money away from the funding of the Dems. It's a beautiful thing!


39 posted on 02/18/2005 12:20:14 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: Soul Seeker
Yes it does! Early in the second term, but 10 years in the making.

A BIG little step in tort reform.

40 posted on 02/18/2005 12:21:27 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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