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Iowa Supreme Court: DOT can deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens
cedar rapids gazette ^
| 2/18/05
| Rod Boshart
Posted on 02/18/2005 8:21:33 AM PST by hoosierboy
DES MOINES -- The Iowa Department of Transportation has the authority to deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens residing in Iowa, according to a unanimous decision issued by the Iowa Supreme Court today. The issue was raised in a case from by Juan and Maria Sanchez, who represented a class of illegal, undocumented aliens present in Iowa who want to obtain driver's licenses.
The class-action suit brought in November 2000 claimed the denial of driving privileges violated protections both under the federal and Iowa constitutions. However, a district judge dismissed the suit, agreeing with the state's contention that illegal aliens have no right to receive driver's licenses because they have no Social Security numbers or other proper immigration documentation required to obtain an operator's permit.
The Supreme Court upheld that lower-court action today.
Although there are thousands of illegal aliens residing in Iowa, the Supreme Court justices ruled that their unauthorized presence in the United States precludes them from qualifying for privileges extended to legal residents.
The high court ruled the DOT practice of denying driver's licenses to illegal aliens living in Iowa is both legal and constitutional.
The justices said it is up to the Legislature to decide the merits of the competing policy arguments surrounding the controversial issue. Republican leaders of the House and Senate have indicated they do not plan to take up the issue this session.
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KEYWORDS: aliens; driverslicenses; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; iowasupremecourt
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I saw this on fox news this morning and was waiting for a source. This is big news and has complications for those states that want to give liscenses to illegals.
To: hoosierboy
Sanity from Iowa's high court.
To: hoosierboy
Yep. It'll give them a precedent when the issue comes up.
Of course it would be much simpler if they actually, for a change, legislated the issue.
You know...representative government. Oh, wait...nevermind. :)
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:23:21 AM PST
by
writer33
("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
To: hoosierboy
You lose. Plus you are deported.
To: hoosierboy
If I was an illegal alien, I sure as heck wouldn't be filing any lawsuits. These idiots have willingly identified themselves as illegals and should be deported immediately.
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:24:07 AM PST
by
14erClimb
To: hoosierboy
This is big news and has complications for those states that want to give [licenses] to illegals.
Big news indeed. It may (I don't know yet) also have implications for previous rulings that say illegal aliens can't be denied access to e.g. public education and welfare benefits.
To: hoosierboy
Ok, I'm sold...I am moving to Iowa.
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:24:40 AM PST
by
atruelady
To: hoosierboy
"Iowa Supreme Court: DOT can deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens"
Wheh! What a relief, for a moment, I thought it was up to illegal aliens...
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:25:34 AM PST
by
odoso
(Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
To: hoosierboy
Although there are thousands of illegal aliens residing in Iowa, the Supreme Court justices ruled that their unauthorized presence in the United States precludes them from qualifying for privileges extended to legal residents.Why is there an "although" at the start of that sentence?
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:25:53 AM PST
by
Psycho_Bunny
(“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
To: 14erClimb
My sentiments exactly. Pretty stupid to call attention to themselves. Isn't that what the brochure for illegal immigration printed in mexico says NOT to do??? (sarcasm)
To: hoosierboy
Although there are thousands of illegal aliens residing in Iowa, the Supreme Court justices ruled that their unauthorized presence in the United States precludes them from qualifying for privileges extended to legal residents.This is a good start. A precedent has been set. Now it's time for some of our politicians to grow a pair and use this to eliminate the give-aways to illegals.
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:26:43 AM PST
by
raybbr
To: Psycho_Bunny
I don't know, but if the press knows where they are, surely the govt./law enforcement does too.
I would think that anyone who is KNOWN to be here illegally should be picked up and removed from the U.S.
To: HiJinx; NewRomeTacitus
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:27:52 AM PST
by
raybbr
To: hoosierboy
Although there are thousands of illegal aliens residing in Iowa, the Supreme Court justices ruled that their unauthorized presence in the United States precludes them from qualifying for privileges extended to legal residents.Holy smokes, Batman! A court that interprets not invents the law?!?!?
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:28:12 AM PST
by
joedelta
(Those who long for peace must prepare for war)
To: hoosierboy
From a strictly legal standpoint, I don't think courts have ay choice but to rule this way. The first time a state court determines that driving is a "rights" issue, then they have effectively: 1) provided a solid legal basis for the argument that requiring drivers to be licensed is unconstitutional (from a state's standpoint, that is); and 2) turned motor vehicle offenses into criminal matters, which means trials for these offenses cannot be carried out in separate courts.
I'm not a lawyer, but this seems like a logical thought process to me.
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:29:36 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
To: Psycho_Bunny
Why is there an "although" at the start of that sentence?
Because there are some 'privileges extended to legal residents' for which illegal aliens do qualify under previous SCOTUS decisions.
It remains to be seen what (if anything) will happen to those decisions now that this ruling has come from the Iowa Supreme Court. First the SCOTUS would have to grant cert and hear the case (or some other on the same issue).
Then it would have to do one of three things: overrule the Iowa Supreme Court's decision; uphold the decision and distinguish this case from those involving e.g. public education and welfare benefits; or uphold the decision and overturn previous SCOTUS decisions.
To: hoosierboy
However, a district judge dismissed the suit, agreeing with the state's contention that illegal aliens have no right to receive driver's licenses because they have no Social Security numbers or other proper immigration documentation required to obtain an operator's permit. The Supreme Court upheld that lower-court action today. Although there are thousands of illegal aliens residing in Iowa, the Supreme Court justices ruled that their unauthorized presence in the United States precludes them from qualifying for privileges extended to legal residents. Yeayyy!! Finally SANITY in America once again.
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:30:04 AM PST
by
stopem
(Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:30:10 AM PST
by
PreviouslyA-Lurker
(Some Americans don't understand that being an American is more than living in America.)
To: hoosierboy
Iowa sees the light. First they went red, now they are making reasonable court rulings.
Exposing the Left
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:31:23 AM PST
by
traderrob6
(http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
To: hoosierboy; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; devolve; yall
Harry Reid and the 'RATS are Saddened, very saddened.
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posted on
02/18/2005 8:31:47 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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