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12 Steps for Reformed Leftists-I am a recovered leftist, with over 25 years of sobriety.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | February 18, 2005 | Gail Penniman

Posted on 02/18/2005 5:29:28 AM PST by SJackson

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To: sterno

Trollin' are ya'? How did you get here? Did someone over at DU leave your cage open?


41 posted on 02/18/2005 10:04:05 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Welcome to America...now speak English)
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To: sterno

You like cats huh?

I know you do.....

Cheers,

knews hound


42 posted on 02/18/2005 10:05:15 AM PST by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: sterno



and this is just the tip of the ice berg
43 posted on 02/18/2005 10:06:18 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: sterno

44 posted on 02/18/2005 10:06:36 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: sterno; timpad; TBarnett34; MeekOneGOP; Old Sarge; PetroniDE; Lady Jag; mhking
Have our efforts created a breeding ground for terrorists? Yes.

Terrorist have been around for thousands of years. The middle east would still be a breeding ground for terrorist even if we did nothing in Iraq or Afghanistan. The warped minds of extremist will use any excuse to justify their insanity and yours is the latest justification.

Did we go into Iraq to make Democracy?

It seems to be working for them at the moment

Is it good that the Iraqis are freed from the power of a brutal dictator? Maybe.

The only reason why the libs are upset about Iraq is that they and the UN lost their money supply from Saddam. Other than that, I fail to see any other rational reason to keep Saddam in power.

There is ample historical evidence that Democracy is not a cure all (Zimbabwe, Haiti, etc).

Communism only killed a few million people...Let's give it another chance argument?

Kitties are watching


45 posted on 02/18/2005 10:07:26 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: sterno; MeekOneGOP
He gassed thousands of people with known illegal chems. Remember the Kurds? That's the start of my evidence.

Now where's yours?

46 posted on 02/18/2005 10:07:50 AM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: Hi Heels
in the future, please don't post random pics of howard dean with a warning!



some of us are just no in shape to deal with those

47 posted on 02/18/2005 10:11:08 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: sterno

48 posted on 02/18/2005 10:12:39 AM PST by wolicy_ponk
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To: SJackson
Happened for me when I was thirteen.....
Asked my pop (who was a democrat) What is communism.?
He said, Communism is like this..

If you work real hard with much effort, and somebody else is lazier than you.. Who do you think will make more money.?.

I said, me of course, get serious and answer my question...
He said, under communism you would be paid the same.. or close to the same..
I said, no way, nobody would stand for that for very long...
He said, lazy people would...

At that I became Anti-Communist.. at thirteen not knowing left from right, socialism from democracy, patriot from traitor..

It was much later that I learned democracy CAUSES socialism, and communism "IS" socialism.. and that socialism is merely a symptom of democracy but democracy is the social disease and that the United States is a republic, a unique republic, and whats posted above is WHY it is...

49 posted on 02/18/2005 10:14:48 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: SJackson

"I now regard the politicizing of young children as a form of child abuse."

I taught my kids about Ronald Reagan, Winston Churchill, John Kennedy, and FDR from an early age. Two grown conservatives and one liberal was the result, still 66 percent.

Communist indoctrination is indeed child abuse, but if parents can't teach politics to their kids who can?


50 posted on 02/18/2005 10:21:44 AM PST by Luke21
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To: sterno
"...that they ignored the evidence they had in their hands that indicated he didn't."

What evidence was that? Something Scott "Burger King" Ritter was saying?

51 posted on 02/18/2005 10:25:45 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: sterno
[ You illustrate well what the problem is with our country in that you present leftism as a disease (as I have seen people on the left present the rightist view). In the end, the truth is in the middle. ]

Pretty post all in all...
But the truth is not in the middle..
Democracy is a disease and "the left" are democrats no matter the party affiliation because democracy causes socialism.. RINOs also are democrats.. Marx and Lenin were democrats too...

Evidence.....
Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

52 posted on 02/18/2005 10:29:57 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: sterno
"Does one vote change everything? No. If the government can take that ball and run with it, and bring real improvement in the lives of Iraqis, then we'll have something. There is ample historical evidence that Democracy is not a cure all (Zimbabwe, Haiti, etc)."

How many Iraqi's have gotten fed into woodchippers since the election?

53 posted on 02/18/2005 10:30:40 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: sterno; darkwing104
Sterno,

54 posted on 02/18/2005 10:38:23 AM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: sterno; MeekOneGOP
Is your name sterno because you want to get flamed? I think there's a can of atomic sterno waiting for you, troll...

55 posted on 02/18/2005 11:32:30 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: SJackson

BTTT


56 posted on 02/18/2005 11:35:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RayChuang88

Do you recommend Medved's book? Just finished John Stossel's, documents a similar but less dramatic personal right turn. I was kind of amazed at Stossel's simple elegance in making his points.


57 posted on 02/18/2005 11:38:55 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: SJackson

Your article resonated with me quite painfully.

My parents, though not Socialist or Communist members, were typical Jewish liberals & children of immigrants. Their friends & relatives were very much left-wingers. All of them watched their children descend into drugs or, ahem, "alternate" lifestyles.

Both my parents died with a certain bitterness, watching their dreams go up in smoke. Mind you, I did not turn right out of rebellion. Rather, on my own cognizance, I saw through the liberal rhetoric and realized how much of it was based on emotional, or wishful thinking.

It is no accident that the left-wing movements of the nineteenth-century coincided with romanticism. Liberalism is a youthful folly. Thank G-d I grew up a little bit. Sadly, so many haven't.


58 posted on 02/19/2005 8:29:54 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: sterno

"They did exaggerate the evidence they had to make their case though. They did knowingly ignore contradictory evidence."

I don't care how many dem talking points you've memorized.
You are delusional if you think there was no WMD threat from Saddam.


59 posted on 02/19/2005 8:39:03 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Grateful Heart Tour 2005)
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