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Vatican University Debuts Satanism Classes
Yahoo ^ | 2/17/05 | ANGELA DOLAND

Posted on 02/17/2005 9:44:51 AM PST by Borges

ROME - Worried about the lure of the devil, a Vatican -linked university on Thursday debuted its latest course offering: a class on Satanism, black magic and exorcism.

The class for clergy and seminarians at Rome's Pontifical Academy "Regina Apostolorum" arose from alarm about what some religious officials see as Satanic practices among young people, especially in Italy.

In one case in Italy in January, members of a heavy metal band called "Beasts of Satan" were ordered to stand trial for their alleged role in three ritual killings. One of the victims was a 19-year-old stabbed to death in 1998. She may have been targeted because her killers believed she was a personification of the Virgin Mary, prosecutors contend.

A major theme of the first day's course was how to differentiate between a person who is possessed and someone who is simply suffering psychological problems.

Rome exorcist Francesco Bamonte described how he works with a team of priests and psychologists to make the distinction before deciding whether to go through with an exorcism.

"If not, I would be inundated with requests from people who don't need me," said Bamonte, who said he performs about 20 exorcisms a year.

The Vatican is also concerned about a growing number of young people who develop what instructors called personal forms of Satanism, outside the sects that are closely monitored by police. They often learn about the devil through the Internet.

"It's a more spontaneous and hidden phenomenon, a problem of loneliness and isolation, a problem of emptiness, that is fulfilled by the values of Satanism," said one of the teachers, Carlo Climati, a specialist on youth culture and Satanism.

Climati said concerned parents had been asking for a special course for priests.

The pontifical academy is run by the Legionaries of Christ, a conservative order, and teachers for the class include exorcists and psychiatrists.

In 1999, the Vatican issued its first new guidelines since 1614 for driving out devils, offering cautions to exorcists about taking psychiatric problems into account.

The updated exorcism rite, first issued in Latin and contained in a red, leather-bound book, was a reflection of Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II's efforts to convince the skeptical that the devil is very much in the world. At the time, he gave a series of homilies denouncing the devil as a "cosmic liar and murderer."

Among the signs of possession by the devil, according to church teaching, are speaking in unknown tongues and demonstrating physical force beyond one's natural capacity.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; exorcism; satanism; vatican
Interesting idea in principle. Know thine enemy?
1 posted on 02/17/2005 9:44:51 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Actually, I think that would be an interesting class. A little creepy, but interesting.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 9:45:47 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Borges

OK this is a dup. I wasn't able to find the other for some reason. Admins feel free to delete!


3 posted on 02/17/2005 9:49:13 AM PST by Borges
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To: mlbford2

4 posted on 02/17/2005 9:51:21 AM PST by Wavve31
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To: Borges
Well, it's about time the vatican fights back against those darn devilish freemasons!
5 posted on 02/17/2005 10:15:37 AM PST by ILLUMINATI_216 (The goal is the creation of a New World Order.)
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To: mlbford2
"Actually, I think that would be an interesting class. A little creepy, but interesting."

I once heard an audio cassette of an actual exorcism, and it is quite creepy. You could hear the groans and threats of a demonic voice coming from within the person; not any such voice as Hollywood movies assign to demons, but rather like a gender-neutral wailing animated by a furious and violent hatred and eternal vengeance. The exorcist priests who deal with this stuff are the personification of faith and courage.

6 posted on 02/17/2005 10:19:24 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: ILLUMINATI_216
Would it be a mixed metaphore to recall the difficulty Hogwarts has in retaining a "Defense Against the Dark Arts" teacher?

For any in here that lean to HP, I have to smirk at the Fifth Book's handling of the government bureacrats who show up at the school to tell them what to teach, and how. Of course it turns out that it is an attempt to make the student's dumber so that they may more easily be controled and manipulated by evil...just like in the real world.)

7 posted on 02/17/2005 10:35:26 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: ILLUMINATI_216
Would it be a mixed metaphore to recall the difficulty Hogwarts has in retaining a "Defense Against the Dark Arts" teacher?

For any in here that lean to HP, I have to smirk at the Fifth Book's handling of the government bureacrats who show up at the school to tell them what to teach, and how. Of course it turns out that it is an attempt to make the student's dumber so that they may more easily be controled and manipulated by evil...just like in the real world.)

8 posted on 02/17/2005 10:35:28 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: Wavve31

Am I the only person who didn't think those skits were funny?

But then again, SNL is not too funny overall.....


9 posted on 02/17/2005 10:45:57 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

yes


10 posted on 02/17/2005 11:03:32 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

ping


11 posted on 02/17/2005 11:16:07 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: TheCrusader

I am not making light of exorcism...but that sure sounds like what it looks like when one reads DU, too...


12 posted on 02/17/2005 11:18:59 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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