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"FDR's Social Security" CARTOON/GRAPHIC featuring Roosevelt's quote from 1935...
IowaPresidentialWatch.com ^ | 2/16/2005 | IPWGOP

Posted on 02/16/2005 3:50:48 PM PST by IPWGOP

cartoon by FReeper IPWGOP (aka Linda Eddy)
courtesy of www.iowapresidentialwatch.com

click here for really large version

This is an email-able, copyright-ready graphic you can use in emails, on blogs, in flyers, on posters... anything that's noncommercial.



TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 1935; fdr; franklin; quote; roosevelt; security; social

1 posted on 02/16/2005 3:50:49 PM PST by IPWGOP
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To: AgThorn; jigsaw; BlessedBeGod; Brad's Gramma; MEG33; kellynla; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; ...

cartoon ping


2 posted on 02/16/2005 3:51:58 PM PST by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: IPWGOP
In other words, fellow citizens, even the Left's favorite dashboard Jesus knew what was coming down the pike. Of course, back in his day, there weren't as many special interest constituencies to BUY OFF with OPM (Other People's Money).


3 posted on 02/16/2005 3:54:04 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: IPWGOP

Enough said.


4 posted on 02/16/2005 3:55:27 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: IPWGOP; SheLion

Couldn't you have edited out the cigarette?

What if there are children around?

(sarcasm off)

Why haven't we heard Fat Ted quoting this comment by FDR? Thanks for the post.


5 posted on 02/16/2005 3:55:58 PM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: IPWGOP

Yeah --- what was the "start" date of FDR plan? and What was the Life Expectancy at the time?

THAT is the truth of the lie.


6 posted on 02/16/2005 4:02:49 PM PST by CLS
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To: IPWGOP

Great stuff, Linda!!!! I just love this!


7 posted on 02/16/2005 4:14:05 PM PST by alwaysconservative (Tagline temporarily under construction)
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To: IPWGOP
Oh come now! We've known that the Social Security fund have been raided by the socialist democRATS for about the 50 years that the RATS have been in power. They have used it for social engineering, they have used it to buy votes, they have used it to fund all of their party comps and power control. There is no lock box, never was, never will be, there is nothing left for us. They have spent it long ago to buy votes and enslave people. Now they are caught. They were caught when Clinton declared a Social Security a "Crisis" and raised taxes. That was the excuse, it's on the record. Now we have a man (the President) that is willing to solve the problem by giving back to the People their own money to invest as they please and keep the investment and the dividends....tax free. The left does not EVER want you to keep your own hard earned money. They want to pilfer it from you and use it for their own uses. They have robbed us for 50 years. It's time for it to stop.
8 posted on 02/16/2005 4:18:45 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: IPWGOP

Once again, fine work.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 4:30:34 PM PST by perfect stranger (Godel, Escher and Bach. The Eternal Golden Braid)
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To: CLS

And, after FDR died, how many "uncovered" workers were added to the program, with no waiting period before being eligible to collect benefits they had not been contributing toward?


10 posted on 02/16/2005 4:45:25 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: IPWGOP

BTTT


11 posted on 02/16/2005 4:48:18 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: IPWGOP
Perfect as usual! Can't wait to send to a few liberal relatives...will make their evening brighter.

Thank You!
12 posted on 02/16/2005 4:48:36 PM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
Full disclosure: I am an FDR buff.

In case anybody is actually interested in historical accuracy, this is what FDR said in actual context:
"In the important field of security for our old people, it seems necessary to adopt three principles: First, non-contributory old-age pensions for those who are now too old to build up their own insurance. It is, of course, clear that for perhaps thirty years to come funds will have to be provided by the States and the Federal Government to meet these pensions. Second, compulsory contributory annuities which in time will establish a self-supporting system for those now young and for future generations. Third, voluntary contributory annuities by which individual initiative can increase the annual amounts received in old age. It is proposed that the Federal Government assume one-half of the cost of the old-age pension plan, which ought ultimately to be supplanted by self-supporting annuity plans."

While pleasing, no doubt, to current arguments, the cartoon misleads what FDR proposed. He was proposing three things: a temporary “old-age pension,” for seniors who wouldn’t have time to pay into the Social Security system; a compulsory-contribution annuity--meaning, Social Security as we know it today--which would become a “self-supporting system,” and, third, voluntary individual accounts. Ultimately, the old-age pensions would be supplanted by the self-supporting annuity system (meaning, Social Security.)
In today's political arena, FDR was proposing a eventual add on to the current social security--workers would voluntarily add onto their mandatory contributions--and this would become self-supporting over time, such as in an annuity.
13 posted on 02/16/2005 5:08:23 PM PST by jefferson02130 (everybody a stakeholder, democracy flourishes)
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To: jefferson02130
Granted but do you think he envisioned the debacle it has become? The problem with so many high minded long lasting programs is that the planners cannot envision the future as it will become.

For instance, people live longer, technology and medicine advance, unions no longer represent the majority of the workforce, therefore plans that go further than a decade scope without review and revision are doomed to fall under the heavy weight of obsolescence.
14 posted on 02/16/2005 5:22:31 PM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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Attention FReepers...send the cartoon along to Keith Olbermann at countdown@msnbc.com.

He needs his eMailBox stuffed with something very appropriate for his current state of denial (about what FDR really said).

15 posted on 02/16/2005 8:21:12 PM PST by harpu
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To: IPWGOP

GW ought to use this in his stumping on the road and so should every other Republican to jam it down the throats of the RATs.


16 posted on 02/16/2005 9:04:44 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: jefferson02130

The most important point I think is that even that repulsive Stalin-loving FDR knew the Social Security system, as it exists today, was insufficient.


17 posted on 02/17/2005 12:08:12 AM PST by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: IPWGOP
Air America has been having a cow over this quote. The spin they are putting on it is really something.
18 posted on 02/17/2005 12:14:10 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: IPWGOP

This is REALLY good, and that's saying quite a bit compared to your other fine works! :)

I'm going to save this one when I get home!


19 posted on 02/17/2005 7:59:57 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: IPWGOP

Social Security Activism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345432/posts


20 posted on 02/17/2005 12:52:35 PM PST by votelife (Elect a filibuster proof majority, 60 conservative US Senators!)
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