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In pictures: How the world is changing
BBC ^ | Gary Braasch

Posted on 02/16/2005 1:25:37 PM PST by rightalien

I cannot copy the pictures but please go to this site and see them.

This guy put together some summer/winter pictures and that proves the global warming???

The BBC audience really is that stupid?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming
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To: rightalien

The summer of 2004 was the 3rd coolest on record in the central USA states. We went into the mid-90's maybe 3 times. Most of the summer was 20 degrees below normal. Low 80's for July and August were wonderful.


41 posted on 02/16/2005 1:50:48 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: dead

Uhhhh . . . so what?


42 posted on 02/16/2005 1:51:07 PM PST by jayef
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To: SF Republican
I weigh more now than I did in 1985. new ice age?

A strange affliction has hit my closet of late. My clothes seem to be shrinking. Global Warming?
43 posted on 02/16/2005 1:51:11 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: dead

Thank goodness, soon there will be more land available for Golf Courses.

BAH!!


44 posted on 02/16/2005 1:51:13 PM PST by four more in O 4 (God Bless America. Let Freedom Reign.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I'll bet Michael Moore's mother dropped a hundred pounds too, once she whelped him...


46 posted on 02/16/2005 1:53:32 PM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Boxer, Pelosi, Thomas...the ultimate nightmare Menage a Quatro)
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To: dead

that pic is a bunch of bunk, proof of nothing. Your looking at an area a few aces in size, with the end of the glacier still very close to where it was. The snow cover on the mountains is the same. a cold year can make it return to it's privious state. All glaciers vary from year to year, decade to decade, century to century. It's part of an ever changing process.

We know that the earth was warmer than it is now at one time.why else are their dinosaur bones in the ice?
We can be still emerging from the last ice age for all we know.

This is blatant fear mongering by the loony lefty enviro wienie Gaia worshipers.


47 posted on 02/16/2005 1:54:00 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: superiorslots
Here is some information on historic temp.- by the way we are currently in an ice age that started 4 million years ago.

On a geological scale, climatic changes are measured in hundreds of thousands to millions of years.  Increased warming is normal for us at this point in time.  On a geological scale, during 2/3 of the last billion years, worldwide global temperatures were warmer than they are now.  The entire earth including all of North America and China was a tropical jungle for millions of years.  Dinosaurs, mammals and birds evolved and dinosaurs went extinct during the Mesozoic Era (248 through 65 million years ago). This corresponds to the most recent major period of extended global warming.  On a more recent scale, the data is ambiguous, at best, if not flat out in conflict with Global Warming theory.

If mammals and many other significant modern phyla evolved to dominance during a much warmer climate than we presently have, then a few degrees of global warming -- regardless of the cause -- might not be the catastrophe the Global Warming people fear.




48 posted on 02/16/2005 1:54:19 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: rightalien
About 15000 to 20000 years ago there were glacial ice sheets as far south as central Pennsylvania. I guess the fires from the early inhabitants caused the ice sheet to retreat all the way to Canada. The warming and cooling of the earth is a NATURAL occurrence. Man's influence of it is minimal at best. Thank God for the retreat of the ice in North America. Look at the plains of the high western U.S. Areas in Utah, Wyoming and the Dakotas were at one time OCEAN BOTTOM. Go find the fossils for yourself.
49 posted on 02/16/2005 1:54:40 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Redcloak

There'a nice debunking of those Drudge pictures at http://wizbangblog.com/archives/005116.php . It's an old Greepace sacm that they have been trying out for a number of years on the gullible.


50 posted on 02/16/2005 1:55:15 PM PST by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: PatriotCJC
But the glacier comes from snow and ice that's further up. And further up, the pictures are the same. The pictures indicate the same amount of material being added to the glacier in both years.

More fundamentally, of course, is that the pictures are presented in a vacuum. What were conditions like in the winter of '28 as compared to '04? Are we comparing an unusually cold year to an unusually warm year for this spot? What were winters like, let's say, 10 years prior for each? And how do those two 10 year periods compare to other 10 year periods on record? For all we know, the glacier was twice as large in 1828 and just as small in 1704 as in 2004. Simplistic presentations such as this tell you nothing about what's happening at the site let alone globally.
51 posted on 02/16/2005 1:55:30 PM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: jayef
Uhhhh . . . so what?

So what?! Do you see how much nicer that place is now? It used to suck, now you can fish there, camp there, maybe even swim there if you like cold water.

That’s progress!

52 posted on 02/16/2005 1:57:45 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Redcloak

Oh I concur with your observations. That's my point the Earth is always in flux. I don't believe in this fossil fuel folly. There have been suggestions that the Sun cycles and Earths relationship within our "Universe" may need to be taken into account.


53 posted on 02/16/2005 2:01:00 PM PST by PatriotCJC
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To: rightalien
San Francisco 1905.



San Francisco 2005


54 posted on 02/16/2005 2:03:22 PM PST by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: hophead

Actually the north central USA and Canada were under a giant glacial lake called Agasis, of which lake Winnipeg and lake Manitoba are a remnant of. It's clearly the most visible evidence by air of the giant sheet of ice that once covered Noth America as you point out. Fossels are found throughout the great plains futher proving this. during the last year, 2004, the permafrost in northern Manitoba extended by over 150 miles, showing how quickly a cool period can change things. Also the treeline in those northern regions has actually been retreating, indicating a return to a cooler period.


55 posted on 02/16/2005 2:11:08 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: rightalien
Show them this picture:


A woman feeding birds from her frozen porch in Hull, Mass. The town, about 20 miles southeast of Boston, is located on a peninsula between the Atlantic Ocean and Boston Harbor.

January, 2005

56 posted on 02/16/2005 2:12:59 PM PST by saquin
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To: PatriotCJC
I believ the point of the picture is that the glacier is gone.

Not gone, just retreated behind the moraine.

57 posted on 02/16/2005 2:19:58 PM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: rightalien

PHOTOSHOPPED. PERIOD. END OF STORY.


58 posted on 02/16/2005 2:20:40 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is (no longer) a threat to national security)
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To: GunnyHartman
Thanks. LOLOLOLO!!!

Post of the Day!!! Who do I notify?

59 posted on 02/16/2005 2:28:50 PM PST by raybbr
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Let us see the picture from 2004 or 2005. I wonder how deep the snow is now. Most likely too deep to show us.


60 posted on 02/16/2005 2:30:59 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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