Posted on 02/16/2005 7:05:38 AM PST by DTA
(Liberal is Politically Correct name for Communist)
Some biographic info on Carl Gustav Sauberzweig
Karl Gustav Sauberzweig born on 1 September 1899 in Wissek Kreis Wirstiz Bezirk Bromberg, West Prussia. His father, Joachim Sauberzweig, was a doctor. Like many German youths, he longing to join with Kaiser army and got his chances when on 28 September 1916 the army received him within theirs ranks. Started as a Fahnenjunker, he ended the First World War in as a leutnant.
A veteran of the First World War and Reichswehr, Leutnant Sauberzweig held several instructor and staff positions during the inter-war period before becoming Ib at XI Korps in the Summer of 1936 and promoted to Major the following Autumn. He was holding the same post at XVII Korps when war broke out in September 1939, but was transferred to the Formation Detachment of the General Staff at OKH after the successful conclusion of Fall Weiss. He returned to operational duties as Ia at XI Korps and served in France where he was wounded at Dunkirk.
Shortly before Barbarossa was launched in June 1941, Sauberzweig had been appointed to take up command of 466th Infantry Regiment (257th Inf. Div.), which fought in most of H. Gr. Süd. During one of battles in Ukraine, Sauberzweig was again injured. This time by granite chips in his eyes, causing him to lose the sight in his right eye. After hospitalized for some time, he returned to duty at the beginning of October as commander of 306th Infantry Regiment. Part of 211th Inf. Div, on occupation duty in France, it would appear that he relinquished command at around the same time as they were sent to reinforce H. Gr. Nord during the Winter of 1941/42 and held a number of Instructor and training posts, as well as being promoted to Oberst, until May when he took charge of 131st Infantry Ersatz Regiment in Brünn. He held this post until November, when he returned to the staff of OKH as C.o.S. at the Inspectorate of Formations Staffs.
At the beginning of August 1943 he was transferred to the Waffen-SS as an Oberführer (Senior Colonel, a rank unique to the SS) and, a few days later, took over command of the ‘Handzar’ Division from Herbert von Obwurzer. The division, which was training in southern France, mutinied soon after his arrival and several German officers and NCO were reportedly killed, as were a number of the mutineers when order was restored. Despite its rebellious nature they continued their training and moved to Silesia during September/October, where their commander was promoted to SS-Brigadeführer, and Austria (December) before being sent against Tito’s partisans in Yugoslavia as part of 2nd Panzerarmee, Heersgruppe F in February 1944.
During his stay with the division in Bosnia, Sauberzweig tried to create a peaceful existence between the local peoples. Unfortunately, his plans didn’t suit with his Moslem soldier’s nature that eager to exterminate theirs Christian neighbors. Thus, the Moslem recruits seemed to spend more time massacring Christian civilians than risking getting shot at by the resistance.
On June 1944, Sauberzweig handed over the command of the ‘Handzar’ to Desiderius Hampel. He then took command of the newly created IX SS Kroatische Gerbiskorps, responsible for control of two Bosnian SS divisions - ‘Handzar’ and the newly created ‘Kama’ - operations in the Balkans and was promoted to Gruppenführer shortly afterwards. However, Sauberzweig was quickly falling-out with the Reichsführer-SS when he told Himmler to dissolved the Bosnian formations after many Moslems soldiers deserted to Partisan ranks. Furiously with the suggestion, which could endanger his Moslem pet project, Himmler replaced him by Karl Pfeffer- Wildenbruch when the Corps was sent north to oppose the Soviet drive into Hungary in mid-December.
After a short spell in hospital, Sauberzweig transfered back to the Heer in mid-January as a Generalleutnant and served on the Staff of Heeresgrupe H until the last days of the war when he is reported to have led an ad-hoc Korps. Sauberzweig surrendered to British, which send him to Neuengamme prison camp. However, when he heard that partisans wanted his extradition, Sauberzweig committed suicide by swallowed poison on 20 October 1946 (presumably was given by a symphaetic English officer).
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Outstanding post!
"DioGuardi lost his re-nomination bid in 1988 for Congress."
DioGuardi was a pro-life Catholic Republican Congressman from my district in Westchester. He's a solid conservative and lost his re-election to liberal Democrat Nita Lowey.
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"History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon."
Napoleon Bonaparte
Or simply; "history is lies agreed upon."
For example: Raise your hand if you're a member of an ethnic group who set up concentration camps in the 1990's.
Ok, then. You can put your hand down now DTA. Time to deal with that, not wasting your time with 60 year old rationalizations for it.
Nice Nazi revisionist try. Croats, Bosnian Muslims and Kosovo Albanians, who jointly have murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs and over 40,000 Jews in WWII have established Concentration camps in the heart of Europe, 45 years after Nazism was defeated. Jews fled from Sarajevo to escape WWII fate (Sarajevo was the first JUDENREIN city in Europe)and Kosovo became JUDENREIN.
Nazi legacy is not history, it is current events.
If Germans have attempted to do something similar, they would probably be nuked by now. But Hitler' Balkan allies got worldwide support.
Since you asked, I am neither Croat, Bosnian Muslim nor Albanian
As of raising of the hand, this salute belongs to you, not me.
Whatever you may think, you don't get to skip them whenever you feel the need to list war crimes in the Balkans.
And you might want to make a note of the fact that the victimhood capital you're waving around here has already been squandered, courtesy of those places I've listed above.
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"Jewish interests" ping.
You and moon bat Mark never tire of shilling for the Islamic cause. Islamic Jihad loves it's useful idiots in the West.
The term "useful idiots" has been attributed to Lenin, as a description of those mindless people in the Western democracies who would always find ways to excuse whatever the Soviet Union did. -Thomas Sowell
We're just not willing to let our Serbian friends here on FR try to misrepresent their cousin's little ethno-bigotry driven mass murder campaigns as being in any way in concert with American interests, or being justified through whatever the latest lie or logical gyration du jour is, as on this thread.
Insisting on Omarska, Keraterm, Trnopolje, Susica, Foca while being blind, deaf and mute about more than 150 concentration camps set up in Bosnia by Croats and Muslims, being silent about 70,000 strong armed Muslim Patriotic League plans to wreak havoc on Serbs and ignoring the fact that it was Bosnian Muslims who started armed hostilities in Bosnia is comparable to calling Gitmo concentration camp while avoiding to mention 9-11.
Discounting the living history of Croatian and Muslim Nazi genocide of Serbs in WWII and subsequent cvontinuation of this policy in the 1990s as ancient history is paramount to discounting The Holocaust as something that happened in the past and supporting Islamic radicals in their desire to destroy Israel.
There is a name for it.
And don't get all stupid trying to shift the blame for who started the war in Bosnia - I'll remind you that even after the Serbs started their ethnic cleansing campaign in April of '92, Izetbegovic was placing his trust in the JNA to provide protection and security for Bosnia's non-Serb citizens, and he was in the Croat's bad graces for doing nothing when the Serbs cleansed their way across a swathe of Southern Herzegovina in '91 on their way to Dubrovnik.
Allow me to jog your memory with some words from Radovan Karadzic, spoken in October of '91:
You want to take Bosnia-Herzegovina down the same highway of hell and suffering that Slovenia and Croatia are travelling. Do not think that you will not lead Bosnia-Herzegovina into hell, and do not think that you will not perhaps make the Muslim people disappear, because the Muslims cannot defend themselves if there is war - How will you prevent everyone from being killed in Bosnia-Herzegovina?
In light of your idiotic contention that it was the Muslims who were preparing for and instigated the war, what is Radovan talking about with his: "because the Muslims cannot defend themselves if there is war"?
Well?
Your major malfunction, DTA, is that you're operating under the presumption that everybody else is stupid enough to let you lie like a rug and not call you on it.
While your countrymen may be willing to let the wool be pulled over their eyes, rest assured, DTA, that not everybody is, and I can point to two different NATO bombing campaigns to back that up, and those, my little self deluded friend, are reality checks that you continue to ignore at your peril.
In other words, there was no need for the Bosnian civil war.
On April 8, 1992, spurred on by the US government, there was a declaration of war by the Bosnian Muslim faction. The civil war in Bosnia then started.
Milosevic asked Morillon: “Did the Serbs kill anyone in that period? Do you have a single example that you could mention?” Morillon said that he did not know. There were “rumours” at the time that he heard about. Morillon conceded, however, that the civil war started in Bosnia with attacks against the Yugoslav National Army (JNA) by the Bosnian Muslim faction.
When did the real siege of Sarajevo start? Morillon replied: “I believe this was on the 2nd of May, 1992, after the command and recruits of the JNA were surrounded in the Marshal Tito barracks and the JNA attempted to pull out.” First the JNA was placed under siege and “then the siege of Sarajevo was actually in response to that.”
Milsoevic queried Morillon: “Is that right, General?” Morillon: “Initially, yes…” The siege of Sarajevo was a “provoked reaction.”
The first attack in Sarajevo occurred when Bosnian Muslim troops killed Yugoslav National Army (JNA) soldiers who were withdrawing from the city following an agreement to do so. The Bosnian Muslim forces attacked a JNA military column in Dobrovoljacka Street in Sarajevo as it was withdrawing. Several JNA soldiers were brutally murdered and their bodies burned and mutilated in these attacks. Their blackened, disfigured, and charred bodies lined the streets.
They had been ambushed and murdered for no other reason than because they were ethnic Serbs and Orthodox Christians. There had been an agreement for the withdrawal of the troops, which agreement the Muslim faction violated. This was a cold-blooded, premeditated massacre or provocative murder of JNA solders who were withdrawing to Yugoslavia.
It was a criminal act, it was murder. But the US government and media never condemned this Muslim crime, this Muslim massacre of Serbs. The so-called Western media did not even cover it. Milosevic asked Morillon: “Do you remember that?” Morillon replied: “Yes…there was a massacre.”
note Hoplites comment Izetbegovic was placing his trust in the JNA to provide protection and security for Bosnia's non-Serb citizens
The only thing you remind us over and over again is how Muslim shills brazenly falsify the historical facts in order to present Muslim side as innocent victims.
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August 1991
Posusje, Bosnia and Herzegovina: HOS (Croatian forces from Croatia) have ambushed and murdered JNA NCO. Bosnia is part of Yugoslavia, JNA is regular Army and HOS is foreign army on Yugoslav soil.
Muslim Patriotic league has ambushed and murdered JNA lieutenant near Ljubace army depot, Tuzla municipality. JNA is regular Army, Patriotic league is terrorist organisation.
Muslim Patriotic league has ambushed and murdered JNA NCO in Sapna, Zvornik municipality, Bosnia and Herzegovina. BiH is part of Yugoslavia and JNA is regular army in BiH. Patriotic league is terrorist organisation.
October 01 1991; Army of Republic of Croatia has made an incursion into Bosnia and Hergegovina (then part of Yugoslavia) and murdered 14 soldiers of JNA in Ravno village, trebinje municipality. JNA is regular Army in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Attacked Army unit was under command of Colonel who was a Muslim.
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March 02 1992: the first hate crime murder in Bosnia and Herzegovina. A Muslim Ramiz Delalic Celo killed in a wedding procession in the old town of Sarajevo the bridesgroom's father Nikola Gardovic, a Serb. This incident was used as pretext to start distribution of weapons to to Muslims. Also, it was a role model for copycat murder in Israel by Palestinian terrorists.
A mass liquidation of Sarajevo Serbs was planned for the ningt March 3/4 1992, When the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) Command in Sarajevo informed Izetbegovic that they knew about the plan, on the same evening Izetbegovic, Radovan Karadzic and General Kukanjac called on the population over television to maintain peace and order.
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March 26, 1992. The forces of Republic of Croatia and Muslim Patriotic league have murdered more than 10 civilians. This is THE FIRST MASSACRE OF BOSNIAN CIVIL WAR
Joing Cro/Muslim forces have looted and torched village and took Serb civilians as prisoners.
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Kupres, Bosnia and Herzegovina, early April 1992: Ten Serbs were killed in the village of Donji Malovan, and 92 imprisoned in a camp. Nine more Serbs were killed in Kupres suburbs. From April 4 to April 7, 1992, 21 Serbs were killed throughout Kupres, especially in the suburb of Kratez, in their homes or while trying to flee the besieged town. In a forest behind Mt. Crni Vrh, three Serbs from the village of Rilic were executed. A similar fate befell the Serbs from the neighboring village of Zanagline, and five of them were shot in the nearby forest. The eldest among them, Trailo Spremo, was 83. The village was torched. Three more members of the Spremo family were killed in the village of Botin. Between April 5 and April 7, 1992, 173 Serb civilians were taken from their homes, led camps in Western Herzegovina where they suffered horrible torture. Some of these people were later transferred to the Lora camp in Split, Croatia.
Before the alleged Serb ethic cleansing in Bosnia in April, the First individual Civilian victim of the Bosnian civil war was a Serb (Nikola Gardovic), the first massacre victims Were Serbs, the first inmates of Concentration camps were Serbs. The same crimes happenend in April 1941, the perps were the same and the victims were the same. It was no coicidence, Bosnian Muslim newsmagasine publicly announced the Arrival of the Fourth Reich and slaughering of Serbs. This is incitement to commit Genocide, as per ICTR Rwanda ruling.
Do I have to spell it for you?
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