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I thought that Freepers might be interested in this ongoing issue not only because it's interesting in and of itself, but because it is reminiscent of some of the hassles that Free Republic has been subjected to.
1 posted on 02/15/2005 12:50:56 PM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

Looks like a worthy thread to bump.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 12:53:34 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Stoat
Damned if I can understand how linking can be illegal. It is no different than citing an article in a footnote. You still have to go to their website for the content.

But then the Law has always been An Ass.

SO9

3 posted on 02/15/2005 12:55:02 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Stoat

I think a real test in the courts would fail. Web sites are CREATED to give people access to their material. If anything, you are ASSISTING them and increasing their hits.

And as for the articles themselves, just do what FR does and excerpt them according to 'fair use' rules.

Basically you can't sue someone (and win) for using what you put out for public use.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 12:57:33 PM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: Stoat

unless you get a liberal judge...


6 posted on 02/15/2005 12:57:58 PM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: Stoat

Sounds like the ratbastards at Pravda's Tulsa Bureau (The Whirled) are feeling threatened so it's time to call out the Kommissars and get the peasants to behave themselves.

F*** that.

Anyone reading this who is a subscriber to that fishwrapper should take a copy of their threat letter and send it in with a note to cancel their subscription as AN ENEMY OF FREE SPEECH.

Stinking Commies!!!!


9 posted on 02/15/2005 1:14:09 PM PST by PeterFinn (Why is it that people who know the least know it the loudest?)
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To: Stoat; All
Crosslinked:

 
 
Welcome to the age of transparency.
 Pajamahadeen Rule... rise of the New Media

13 posted on 02/15/2005 1:30:17 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Stoat

BTTT


14 posted on 02/15/2005 1:42:29 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: Stoat
As a Tulsa native (moved to OKC in Sept.) let me just chime in...We all know the Tulsa World is slanted (if not downright capsized) to the left side. Good for you for calling them on the carpet.

I don't think they have a leg to stand on in the "linking to their site" charge. OK bump.

17 posted on 02/15/2005 3:57:52 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (Welcome to my addiction.)
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To: dirtboy
The empire strikes back ping...
23 posted on 02/15/2005 4:23:52 PM PST by okie01 (A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
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To: Stoat

The Tulsa World is another example of lefty boomers taking over and destroying an institions (universities and media are the favorite targets).

The World was a conservative paper in a conservative town until the 1990's. It has currently evolved into a hopelessly biased liberal rag. Yet the vast majority of its subscribers and readers are red blooded conservatives. Go figure.

I hope the Bates blog hounds the World relentlessly. Power to the people.


24 posted on 02/15/2005 4:30:04 PM PST by Maynerd
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To: Stoat
This is ridiculous. You can Google up the Tulsa World, do they want to be removed from Google? Maybe they should just take down their web site. I don't get it, seems to me a newspaper would want all the readers they could get. I guess they just want like minded readers.
26 posted on 02/15/2005 5:34:02 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Stoat

reproducing content is one thing. copyright law is pretty clear on it, irrespective of "fair usage" of excerpts

linking is quite another matter. on this issue, the Whirled has no leg to stand on. I used to be involved freelance with a large multinational firm as part of their RM and B&RC division, doing web-copping. I know from experience and for a fact that the Whirled will lose on the links. Period.


27 posted on 02/15/2005 5:59:14 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Stoat

While everyone gets up in arms about the paper's demand to cease linking -- which is obviously goofy -- it's worth noting that the paper is also accusing the blogger of reproducing its material ("in whole or in part").

If you haven't yourself seen the material in question, then you're simply rushing to judgment in assuming the blogger is right and the paper is wrong. I know I haven't seen the material in question, so I have no basis on which to form an opinion.

I do know, though, that if the blogger was indeed reproducing entire Tulsa World articles, or reproducing them to an extent unprotected by a fair-use claim, then he is guilty of copyright infringement.

I realize there are many Free Republic users who believe there's nothing wrong with republishing copyrighted content in its entirety. That's quite clear. But if a content owner wishes to protect his copyright, it's certainly his legal and moral right to do so. The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, obviously, are among those who have sought to defend their copyrights here. Others, obviously, have not. Intellectual property infringement is (typically) a civil and not criminal matter. Pursuing a claim is entirely the prerogative of a copyright holder.

Tulsa World may very well be engaged in its own legally and morally defensible protection of its copyrights. Until we know the extent of the blogger's reproduction -- or if there was reproduction at all -- then it seems wise to withhold judgment.


28 posted on 02/15/2005 6:04:01 PM PST by Semolina Pilchard
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To: Stoat

Thanks for all of your work Michael D. Bates.


29 posted on 02/15/2005 6:14:51 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Stoat

Sent a message to the daily oklahoman with the url. Always nice to know when the competition is making and
A-$$ of themselves. :-)


32 posted on 02/16/2005 6:36:42 AM PST by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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