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David Brock: Conservatives 'Willing to Lie' to Influence Media
CNSNews ^ | February 15, 2005 | Marc Morano

Posted on 02/15/2005 9:21:13 AM PST by MisterRepublican

Washington, D.C. (CNSNews.com) - David Brock, a former investigative reporter for conservative publications before flipping his political ideology and writing a book titled, "Blinded by the Right," said Monday that the best way for liberals to expose the current conservative influence in the media is to show how conservatives are "simply willing to lie."

Brock is currently the president and CEO of Media Matters for America, a liberal media watchdog that takes on some of the biggest names in conservative media. In authoring the 2002 book, "Blinded by the Right, The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative," Brock not only distanced himself from the conservative movement, he disclosed his homosexuality.

Monday, he noted examples of how the "professional" or "mainstream media" are influenced by conservative talk radio, the Internet and think tanks. That influence, Brock said, will diminish as the conservative "lies" are exposed.

"The conservatives seem to be particularly vulnerable because the quality of their research is particularly low. There is typically self-interested money behind it and of course they are simply willing to lie," Brock told a group of interns at a luncheon at the Center for American Progress headquarters in Washington D.C.

Brock urged the young media activists to challenge what he views as the conservative media bias.

"I think that all of that has to be confronted in a systemic way. If you shine light on propaganda over time, it does cease to have an effect," Brock said. "Their words can be used against them. The fact that the claims that they make are often dubious can also be brought up in a very effective way," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blankley; brock; conservatives; davidbrock; easonjordan; gannon; geneva; influence; jeffgannon; liberalagenda; liberalmedia; lies; mediamatters
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To: wideawake

Gannon/Guckert the talon news guy.


81 posted on 02/15/2005 12:08:57 PM PST by isom35
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To: Trippin
Did you have to resort to name-calling to make that point?

LOL, it depends on who you call a faggot.

Totally off topic, but I knew a home schooled boy who was a very good hockey player, and we all know if you are good on the ice you are called some wonderful names to get under your skin and get you upset, so the normally insulated boy was exposed to new words.

One day one of his friends was accused by parents of calling an other boy a faggot and he came to his defense and said he did not, but even if he had it was no big deal because he had looked the word up in the dictionary because he had been called one many times during a game, and it meant a bundle of wood or sticks. He had looked up the word with one g in the spelling, his mother sent him back to look up the word with 2 g's in the spelling. Until that point he had been a very clean player never getting into a fight....that was the end of that.

82 posted on 02/15/2005 12:24:34 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: MisterRepublican

Brock is willing to lie to get a man in bed.


83 posted on 02/15/2005 12:27:03 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: wideawake

"Precisely - you have no argument"

Not surprisingly, my sarcasm was lost on you. Your arguments are as stupid today as when they were made during the civil rights struggle by people who wanted to disguise their racist behaviour even as they were calling black people "niggers".

Flame on. Consider yourself ignored.


84 posted on 02/15/2005 12:37:36 PM PST by Trippin
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

All he did was talk about alleged conservative "lies." He didn't mention one.


85 posted on 02/15/2005 12:46:56 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Maria S

That's what I remember, too.


86 posted on 02/15/2005 12:52:15 PM PST by libstripper
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To: wideawake
David Brock and Andrew Sullivan exist for one purpose: to remind real conservatives that there is no such thing as a conservative faggot.

ROFL! You don't mince words, do you?

87 posted on 02/15/2005 1:01:08 PM PST by detsaoT (insert hot-button issue here.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Could it be more obvious that Mr. Brock doesn't know his left from his right? A clear indication that he also does not know his @$$ from a hole in the ground.

The smell of his tale is proof positive that he usually wipes the hole in the ground.


88 posted on 02/15/2005 1:08:04 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Dems! Show us your exit plans for Germany,Japan, Bosnia ,S. Korea and we'll show you ours for Iraq.)
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To: JesseJane
Bi-Political? lol! "he gets by with a little help from his friends, Oh, he gets by with a little help from his friends.."

Maybe he has a John Lennon fixation.

89 posted on 02/15/2005 1:30:24 PM PST by Alia (The tapes, they speak to me...)
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To: JesseJane

Thank you, JJ. I remember when this all happened, Brock and the stabbing of former friends. I've been reading through the thread here, and I like your term "bi-political".


90 posted on 02/15/2005 1:38:11 PM PST by Alia
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To: MisterRepublican
From the linked article:"If at the end of the day, the average consumer of news isn't sure what to think (about Kerry's Vietnam War record), [conservatives] have made progress because they have planted seeds of doubt that weren't there before and so it's very difficult to confront that kind of thing," Brock said.

It's very difficult to confront "that kind of thing" when Kerry won't release his records and what he has posted on the net contains such puzzling details indicating that the record has been heavily massaged.

91 posted on 02/15/2005 1:53:30 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Trippin
Your arguments are as stupid today as when they were made during the civil rights struggle by people who wanted to disguise their racist behaviour even as they were calling black people "niggers".

Again, you continue to push the illogical canard that genetic ethnicity and voluntary sexual behavior are identical phenomena.

As long as you continue to make this facile, imbecilic false analogy, you have no argument.

What you need to do is come up with a coherent case for your strange contention that being of African descent and being a sodomite are synonymous.

Otherwise the inherent contradiction in your sloganeering is unresolved. You should be embarrassed that even a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal could point out so basic a flaw in your reasoning.

92 posted on 02/15/2005 7:55:44 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: isom35
Can't say I've ever found Talon News to be particularly well-written or informative.

Is this true or just rumor? Has Talon ever broken any major stories like Drudge?

93 posted on 02/15/2005 8:02:11 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
When they say a lie a hundred times in 3 hours and only correct the lie once in 3 hours IT IS A LIE. Most do not listen all 3 hours and miss the one time it is said correctly.

There are other situations in which conservative spokespersons "lie" is a similar matter in that they make unqualified statements and expect the listener to be a mind reader and understand the qualifications in the speaker's mind.

My point is that apart from the morality, it backfires on these spokespersons. They would be more effective four our cause if they did not "lie".

94 posted on 02/15/2005 8:02:12 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Trippin

I see someone woke up on the wrong side of his macrame tea cozy today.


95 posted on 02/15/2005 8:03:50 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: InterceptPoint

Speaking of which, has sKerry signed his SF180 yet?


96 posted on 02/15/2005 8:08:00 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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To: wideawake

"What you need to do is come up with a coherent case for your strange contention that being of African descent and being a sodomite are synonymous."

Learn to read. Maybe then we can have a discussion.


97 posted on 02/15/2005 8:49:12 PM PST by Trippin
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To: Trippin
Learn to read. Maybe then we can have a discussion.

Again, make an argument.

You have implied three or four times now that there is no categorical or moral distinction between a person's ethnicity and their voluntary actions.

There is no equation between the two - your attempt to conflate the real civil rights struggle of black Americans and the disingenuous yet aggressive campaign for social hegemony by sodomites is simply dishonest propaganda.

Quit the self-righteous sloganeering.

98 posted on 02/16/2005 4:56:04 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

"Quit the self-righteous sloganeering."

Now THAT's funny.


99 posted on 02/16/2005 6:28:41 AM PST by Trippin
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To: Trippin

Again, you still have no case. And yes - you are self-righteous: you think you're a better person than I am because I use pithy descriptors.


100 posted on 02/16/2005 6:46:14 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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