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The Great American Job Sellout
google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw

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To: EagleUSA
Here I do agree that these ILLEGALS are taking low-end jobs that MANY AMERICANS WOULD TAKE if given the opportunity.

Not at the price being offered.

But I recognise that people differ on this question, and it's all speculation.

Next time you want someone to mow your lawn, ask a neighborhood kid to do it and see what he wants for the job. Most just do it themselves at that point. No one gets better at that point.

61 posted on 02/15/2005 8:01:09 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: ContraryMary

Of course part of the reason for the ridiculous requirements is so that employers can claim that no Americans are qualified, therefore they must increase the number of H1-B Visas.


62 posted on 02/15/2005 8:01:38 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: L98Fiero

You are probably in better shape then people in blue areas. My observation is that the red area job growth is just fine - it's the traditional urban coastal areas and rust belt that are experiencing the doldrums.


63 posted on 02/15/2005 8:02:15 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: 1Old Pro
In many cases the root cause can be assigned to unreasonable union demands.

New reports say a wave of Chinese automobiles will be hitting our shores. Under pricing the Koreans, Japanese and our own cheaper builds. Do you honestly think a non-union US autoworker can compete with ChiCom workers being paid ChiCom wages?

64 posted on 02/15/2005 8:02:17 AM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: dennisw

To add insult to injury, last year, when thousands of American High tech workers were unemployed, they increased the H1-B cap 20,000. Bastards.


65 posted on 02/15/2005 8:03:48 AM PST by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: ContraryMary

I will say this to anyone, and I know it's easier said than done, but you have to network so that basically you can get a job without having to interview. I do presentations for local user groups, and I have gotten several job offers based on doing those presentations alone. Get a blog, and start writing about unique technical skills that you have, this is the way to go.


66 posted on 02/15/2005 8:04:26 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: dennisw

Good point.


67 posted on 02/15/2005 8:04:31 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: dennisw
Do you honestly think a non-union US autoworker can compete with ChiCom workers being paid ChiCom wages?

Yes, because union workers already compete.....GM, Ford, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, VW, etc.

68 posted on 02/15/2005 8:04:43 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: dennisw
Your first post implied that you are above and immune to such immigration impacting on you.

No it didn't. Post it and explain if you can.

theory. Outmoded ones.

2+2=4,,,always. It can't get outmoded. And if you want to introduce some "new" economic theory to the discussion, please do so. I have been studying it for decades, I'd be facinated to hear something new.

69 posted on 02/15/2005 8:04:59 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Actually it is not a problem. If you can do my job for half what I get that's free enterprise.

That's why I didn't ask you the question. I knew that you knew the answer. The other poster however, doesn't seem to grasp it.

70 posted on 02/15/2005 8:06:44 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Alabama is growing like gangbusters. A great place to be right now if in the job market - but frustrating if you are hiring.


71 posted on 02/15/2005 8:08:10 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Protagoras
"And if you want to introduce some "new" economic theory to the discussion, please do so. I have been studying it for decades, I'd be facinated to hear something new."

I bet he considers "CHICAGO" style Pizza "New" as well.

72 posted on 02/15/2005 8:11:42 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Protagoras

The reason unemployment is low is people are having to work-2-3 jobs. I agree the insurance is high but it is only a small factor.

Also the people I see having to work 2-3 jobs is not nessecarily because they have "too many trappings" like you surmised. Some yes. But most I come across are very frugal.

Construction jobs used to pay $14-15 in my area. Now they pay $7-8.oo per hour because hispanics are willing to do it for that amount.

My main point is our country maybe getting a boost from low wages at this time but I think it is going to come crashing down. In the future you will see more people on welfare/public assistance, Heap, food stamps etc.


73 posted on 02/15/2005 8:12:10 AM PST by superiorslots
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To: ContraryMary
Unfortunately, employers with your common sense are outnumbered by those who are looking for ridiculous requirements.

I do believe that these people simply aren't serious about hiring someone. They are fishing for the big one rumored to be in this lake, and they are just wasting their time and anyone who expects them to be reasonable.

It is hilarious to read some of the lists and experience requirements, you can just about add it up and realize the person would not only have to be eighty five years old, but also won't exist for fifty years.

74 posted on 02/15/2005 8:13:34 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: EagleUSA
Hear Hear Eagle! Why not open your own business instead of depending upon the government to "Take care of you"? -
Its hard and terrifying, but is what this country was founded on , more satisifying and you have more control over the decisions you make.
When one gives his power to the government, one does it in exchange for perceived security.
The reality is, there is no security for a man or woman unless the are self reliant and god-fearing.
As my grandfather said, "Corporations have no soul and cant be killed- they go on for generations" - You expect loyalty from these companies? They provide jobs for as long as they are able and move on to the next big thing.
75 posted on 02/15/2005 8:13:45 AM PST by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Protagoras

Next time you want someone to mow your lawn, ask a neighborhood kid to do it and see what he wants for the job.
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My gardener is A LEGAL MEXICAN IMMIGRANT -- and he is paid very well because he is LEGAL. And he is not happy with the illegal flood supported by Washington -- not because of competition, but because HE WORKED HIS ASS OFF TO BECOME LEGAL, LEARN OUR LANGUAGE AND BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT. And he considers himself to be an AMERICAN and he is proud of it.


76 posted on 02/15/2005 8:13:56 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Mad Dawgg
I bet he considers "CHICAGO" style Pizza "New" as well.

I've lived here all my life and I couldn't tell you what a "CHICAGO" style Pizza is.

I love thin crust pizza loaded with everything they tell you not to eat. :^}

77 posted on 02/15/2005 8:15:35 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: dennisw

The Honorable Paul Craig Roberts is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy, and research fellow at the Independent Institute.

A former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service, he is a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles and a columnist for Investor's Business Daily. In 1992, he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993, the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of its top seven journalists.

Roberts was a distinguished fellow at the Cato Institute from 1993 to 1996. From 1982 through 1993, he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. During 1981–82, he served as assistant secretary of the Treasury for economic policy. President Ronald Reagan and Treasury secretary Donald Regan credited him with a major role in the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, and he was awarded the Treasury Department's Meritorious Service Award for "his outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy." From 1975 to 1978, Roberts served on the congressional staff, where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy.

In 1987 the French government recognized Roberts as "the artisan of a renewal in economic science and policy after half a century of state interventionism" and inducted him into the Legion of Honor.

Roberts's books include The Tyranny of Good Intentions, coauthored with IPE fellow Lawrence Stratton (Prima Publishing, 2000); Chile: Two Visions—the Allende-Pinochet Era, coauthored with IPE fellow Karen Araujo (Universidad Nacional Andres Bello, 2000); The Capitalist Revolution in Latin America, coauthored with IPE fellow Karen LaFollette Araujo (Oxford University Press, 1997; in Spanish, 1999); The New Colorline: How Quotas and Privilege Destroy Democracy, coauthored with Lawrence Stratton (Regnery, 1995; in paperback, 1997); Meltdown: Inside the Soviet Economy, coauthored with Karen LaFollette (Cato Institute, 1990). Roberts's The Supply-Side Revolution (Harvard University Press, 1984) was praised by Forbes as "a timely masterpiece that will have real impact on economic thinking in the years ahead." Roberts is also the author of Alienation and the Soviet Economy (1971; republished in 1990) and Marx's Theory of Exchange, Alienation and Crisis (1973; republished in 1983; in Spanish, 1974).

Roberts has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship, including the Journal of Political Economy, Oxford Economic Papers, Journal of Law and Economics, Studies in Banking and Finance, Journal of Monetary Economics, Public Finance Quarterly, Public Choice, Classica et Mediaevalia, Ethics, Slavic Review, Soviet Studies, Cardoza Law Review, the Independent Review, Rivista de Political Economica, and Zeitschrift fur Wirtschafspolitik. He has entries in the McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Economics and the New Palgrave Dictionary of Money and Finance. He has contributed to Commentary, the Public Interest, the National Interest, Harper's, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, Fortune, London Times, the Financial Times, Times Literary Supplement, the Spectator, Il Sole 24 Ore, Le Figaro, Liberation, and the Nihon Keizai Shimbun. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.

Roberts is listed in Who's Who in America, Who's Who in the World, the Dictionary of International Biography, Outstanding People of the Twentieth Century, and 1000 Leaders of World Influence.

Roberts has held numerous academic appointments and is a director of A. Schulman and the Value Line Investment Funds.

Roberts was educated at the Georgia Institute of Technology (B.S.), the University of Virginia (Ph.D.), the University of California at Berkeley and Oxford University, where he was a member of Merton College.

source: http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/bios/roberts.html


78 posted on 02/15/2005 8:15:39 AM PST by baseball_fan (Thank you Vets)
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To: EagleUSA

Good for you. Does he work for less than the neighborhood kids?


79 posted on 02/15/2005 8:16:21 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: superiorslots
"The reason unemployment is low is people are having to work-2-3 jobs."

The reason people need to work 2-3 jobs is because they have two 40K SUVs in the garage that is attached to their 350K McMansion which is furnished with expensive electronics and furniture. And all of it must be purchased NOW NOW NOW No downpayment no payments for 12 months easy credit easy credit!

You can work for much less if you want to. I do.

80 posted on 02/15/2005 8:16:49 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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