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China and the Final War for Resources
Energy Bulletin ^ | 11 Feb 2005 | Bill Ridley

Posted on 02/14/2005 2:06:19 PM PST by ladtx

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The original article is rather long and copyrighted so I've excerpted part of it.

A thought provoking piece. The author lays out some facts and figures of China oil consumption plus economic moves that have not been broadcast, at least not very loudly, by the MSM. Maybe we are in a war for oil, just not in the way the liberal Democrats wish to portray it.

Any oil and gas or economist types out there wish to comment?

1 posted on 02/14/2005 2:06:20 PM PST by ladtx
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To: ladtx
Does this . . . mean . . . we are . . . DOOMED?
2 posted on 02/14/2005 2:09:20 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: wvgasman; M. Espinola; TexasCowboy

Seen you guys on some other oil and gas threads. Wanted to get your opinion. Ping anyone else who may have some input.


3 posted on 02/14/2005 2:14:24 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: ladtx
Can you imagine if U.S. military leaders or politicians made such threatening comments? People would be up in arms and demanding resignations and Congressional inquiries!

Let me put it another way. An American gets his head cut off and the whole world remains silent, as if it never happened. However some probable terrorist gets some panties placed on his head and the whole world moans and groans in angst and disgust! The hypocrisy is just immense!

4 posted on 02/14/2005 2:16:20 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: BenLurkin

Don't know if we're doomed or not but the guy does have some good and apparently well documented points. Granted, he does have an alarmist way of writing. I'm not an oil and gas guy nor an economist. I got a heads up on it from someone in the oil and gas business and thought it was rather thought provoking.


5 posted on 02/14/2005 2:17:29 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Havoc

Ping


6 posted on 02/14/2005 2:18:31 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: ladtx
search is our friend
7 posted on 02/14/2005 2:18:45 PM PST by BullDog108 (Forgive the Russians / Ignore the Germans / Punish the French)
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To: ladtx

not going to happen.

anyone familiar with state of the art tools available today in materials research knows that the cost of hydrogen is going to be collapsed in 4-6 years.

the arabs have overplayed their hand in spades and pissed off everybody around the world. there's not a major lab anywhere in the world today that is not working on bringing on the hydrogen economy.

Not only is it just a matter of time before the world shifts over--but that time frame is much shorter than people expect today.


8 posted on 02/14/2005 2:18:56 PM PST by ckilmer
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Read the whole article. I agree he has an alarmist way putting things but he does have several other salient points. I think what you quoted is a dig toward the libs who were silent on the comments.


9 posted on 02/14/2005 2:21:03 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: ladtx

The U.S. will never need to fight a war for resources, we are capable of creating new resources.

China may eventually fight a war against the U.S., but that's simply because a dictatorship has to always find ways to maintain control of its population, a war is often a war to focus the attention of the people on an outside enemy.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 2:22:19 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: BullDog108

You're right. I usually do a search but this seemed so obscure I didn't do one. Didn't get much response there either did it?


11 posted on 02/14/2005 2:22:29 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: ladtx

China has exactly the same problem Imperial Japan did. A dependence on imported raw materials and the impossibility of building a navy powerful enough to secure the sea lanes.


12 posted on 02/14/2005 2:22:30 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

Tom Clancy's SSN and The Bear and The Dragon seem to be shaping China's foriegn policy.


13 posted on 02/14/2005 2:24:23 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: ladtx

No it did not. Sorry if I sounded like the post police....


14 posted on 02/14/2005 2:25:29 PM PST by BullDog108 (Forgive the Russians / Ignore the Germans / Punish the French)
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To: ckilmer

Oil will still be needed for plastics and goods.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 2:26:01 PM PST by John Will
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To: Jeff Head

This might interest you ping.


16 posted on 02/14/2005 2:26:08 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: ladtx

Ok, even if China had control over our currency as the article propounds, I seem to recall that our troops are currently in the environs of where China gets its oil. In other words, we can cut them off one, two and three.

I do think that sooner or later China and the U.S. are going to come to blows. . .over the Monroe Doctrine.


17 posted on 02/14/2005 2:28:48 PM PST by FlipWilson
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...I seem to recall that our troops are currently in the environs of where China gets its oil.

That's why I said we just may be a war for oil, but not for reasons the libs keep screaming about. They say we're in it to enrich the oil companies, but this article seems to say we may be in it for our own security.

18 posted on 02/14/2005 2:33:16 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: BullDog108
Sorry if I sounded like the post police....

No problem, someone has to keep us in line :)

Gotta go check back here tonight or tomorrow.

19 posted on 02/14/2005 2:35:17 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: FlipWilson

"I do think that sooner or later China and the U.S. are going to come to blows. . .over the Monroe Doctrine."

Youre right, Im afraid, if things continue unabated.

IMO, part of the comprehensive China 'pincer' strategy includes gaining a foothold in Central and South America.

The first nation to make overt overtures to China is Venezuela.


20 posted on 02/14/2005 2:36:30 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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