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Found this through the Heritage website. Governmental policy always has unintended consequences . . . if you are interested in more about the same, try Big Shrimp: A Protectionist Mess.
1 posted on 02/14/2005 7:43:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

But Willie Green says subsidies make our sugar cheaper.


2 posted on 02/14/2005 7:47:06 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: 1rudeboy

The government should stick to defending the rights of the citizens and stop interfering in businesses of any kind.


3 posted on 02/14/2005 7:49:14 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: farmfriend

Your thoughts, please.


4 posted on 02/14/2005 7:52:07 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 1rudeboy
"” Since farming households in general have higher incomes, greater wealth and lower consumption expenditures than most households, this creates a perverse anti-Robin Hood effect: The poor (relatively speaking) are being robbed to pay the rich."
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It will be interesting to follow this thread to see if any of the crowd who believes the American farmer cannot compete anymore and is living on the edge of financial ruin will, finally, offer some evidence to refute the Heritage Foundation's claim.
5 posted on 02/14/2005 7:55:32 AM PST by Mase
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To: 1rudeboy

Get rid of the Chicago Board of Trade and the speculators in the market and you won't need gov. payments. As long as the producers can't set the prices they need for their crops, they most likely aren't going to be profitable.


6 posted on 02/14/2005 7:56:39 AM PST by curlewbird
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To: 1rudeboy

Bush's proposal will do nothing to hurt 99% of the family farms.


7 posted on 02/14/2005 7:58:10 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: 1rudeboy

Harangue the farmers if you must, but these bills ought to be labled, "Save the Farmland Banking Industry." In my No. Illinois area family corparations have led the farm consolidation and they have done it with the help of institutions willing to lend money rather freely. Take away the government juice and we will need John "Cougar" to do his first Bank Aid concert.


8 posted on 02/14/2005 8:03:13 AM PST by junta (If you must hate, hate an ideologue.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Whatever the case, farmers in my neck of the woods are selling prime ag land to developers. Unfair trade practices undercut U.S. farmers. That's an issue.


12 posted on 02/14/2005 8:13:51 AM PST by followerofchrist
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To: 1rudeboy

Where do I sign up to get paid $12 so I don't have to mow my lawn?


14 posted on 02/14/2005 8:39:50 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: 1rudeboy

here's an interesting article i found posted at a ag forum i read at. it's about the success of getting rid of gvt subsidies, in of all places - New Zealand.


http://www.agritech.org.nz/subsidy.shtml

Subsidy-free and profitable agriculture

Farmers in most countries continue to face radical change, through the reduction or elimination of government subsidies, driven by the need to reform world trade within agricultural products. Farmers fear for the future of those who work on the land, their families, and for the rural communities. They fear the long-term destruction of the traditional farming systems and the rural way of life.

Yet the truth is quite different, and for family farming there is life after subsidies. Indeed, life after subsidies is better than farming that is dependent upon state handouts.

(continued at link)


21 posted on 02/14/2005 8:59:57 AM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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