[NZerFromHK]

This is what they do. The pendulum swings wilder in all non-US Western countries. Once upon a time it is considered Britain, with the public school and Oxbridge gentleman culture, is a farmore subdued one than the States. It's now the other way round. Contemporary British singers and bandslike the Oasis, the Verve, etc actually make their American counterparts appear more moderate relatively.

I have a Sri Lankan friend who remarked that the youth scene in the real US, outside Hollywood and Hip-hop scene, is still remarkably civil. In contrast, he says, youths in New Zealand and the UK seem to match more the Hollywood movie stereotype - vulgar, etc.

[Cronos]

I have a Sri Lankan friend who remarked that the youth scene in the real US, outside Hollywood and Hip-hop scene, is still remarkably civil. In contrast, he says, youths in New Zealand and the UK seem to match more the Hollywood movie stereotype - vulgar, etc.

I will concur with that -- I expected a lot more from the English and yes, I do find the older generation really civil and English but the new generation and those in their teens and twenties are pretty sad. I really think Britain's salvation is coming from its immigrants from South Asia. THat being said, once they chuck their socialist education policy and their stupid government ideas (no spanking allowed????), and actually bring discipline back, I think the UK could be one of the leading lights again.