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Posted on 02/13/2005 10:41:05 AM PST by nsmart

The FairTax is the non-partisan national sales tax proposal that would replace all federal income taxes. These include personal, estate, gift, self-employment, alternative minimum, capital gains, FICA, and corporate and death taxes.

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KEYWORDS: consumptiontax; endincometax; fairtax; fairtaxorg; hr25; incometaxes; taxes; taxreform
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The FairTax is the non-partisan national sales tax proposal that would replace all federal income taxes. These include personal, estate, gift, self-employment, alternative minimum, capital gains, FICA, and corporate and death taxes. It is estimated that Americans spend in the range of $250 billion to $500 billion every year in income tax compliance costs.

Under FairTax, used items and business-to-business purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. Only new goods and services for personal consumption would be taxed.

An initial reaction is that the price of goods and services will increase. However, this is quite the opposite. With the current tax system, companies have to pass their tax and compliance costs on to the consumer. Dale Jorgenson, former Harvard University economics department chairman, projected an average product price reduction of 20 percent to 30 percent in the first year after adoption of the FairTax.

Most importantly the FairTax is fair. It protects the lower-income individuals and families by providing a monthly rebate on expenditures up to the poverty level. Those spending at or below the poverty level will pay no tax. If the large corporate bigwigs want to spend their multi-million dollar salaries on expensive luxuries, then they will be taxed more; but if they choose to invest their money back into the company, the employees or the community, then they will be taxed less.

I strongly urge the readers to visit the Americans For Fair Taxation Web site at www.FairTax.org to learn more about this.

1 posted on 02/13/2005 10:41:05 AM PST by nsmart
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To: nsmart



Will we ever get rid of the DEATH TAX aka the Estate tax?

I think It's time for another Boston Tea Party.


2 posted on 02/13/2005 10:43:32 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

This one gets rid of all income tax.. for us and corporations.. Less than 40% pay income tax anyway.. no more favors in the tax code.. no more IRS.. no more 300 billion in compliance costs..


3 posted on 02/13/2005 10:45:54 AM PST by nsmart
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Dale Jorgenson, former Harvard University economics department chairman, projected an average product price reduction of 20 percent to 30 percent in the first year after adoption of the FairTax.

What a nutty claim. Taking out the same amount of tax will not have a dramatic impact on prices. I hate the over the top phoney claims the Fair Tax people have been making for years. Their analysis makes global warming scientist look honest.

4 posted on 02/13/2005 10:46:46 AM PST by Always Right
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To: nsmart
This tax would be the greatest "freedom for individuals" act since 1776.

No more KGB/IRS troops...

More - much - $ in our pockets, businesses with much more $, translates into more jobs, no "April 15th", ...just keeps on giving

5 posted on 02/13/2005 10:47:10 AM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
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To: nsmart; ancient_geezer

ping


6 posted on 02/13/2005 10:47:23 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: Always Right

Without an income tax, the USA will become a tax haven for the richest of the rich.. imagine the growth in the economy.


7 posted on 02/13/2005 10:48:17 AM PST by nsmart
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To: nsmart

Stick around everybody. You're about to see some real discussion about this.


8 posted on 02/13/2005 10:48:17 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: nsmart
and actually - this would mean the super rich REALLY do pay the most - so why are the dims against it? (maybe because with all the IRS loopholes for the rich, they don't now?)
9 posted on 02/13/2005 10:49:00 AM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - LINCOLN)
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To: groanup

I certainly hope we get some real discussion.

I honestly think the US would attract investments from all over the world. After all -- taxing investments is soooo dumb. Investments are in the mattress - they are building houses, they are creating jobs, they are buying new machinery.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 10:50:10 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Always Right

What is nutty?


11 posted on 02/13/2005 10:50:12 AM PST by Principled
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To: Always Right
I hate the over the top phoney claims the Fair Tax people have been making for years.

So what is your analysis?

12 posted on 02/13/2005 10:52:31 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: maine-iac7

The Democrats like the ability to make a change in the tax code and applaud themselves .. they like the engineering in the code.

In my opinion, the Patriot Act is a pussy cat next to what I have to tell the IRS.


13 posted on 02/13/2005 10:52:50 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Always Right
Did you know that hidden income taxes and the cost of complying with them currently make up 20 percent or more percent of all retail prices? It's true. According to Dr. Dale Jorgenson of Harvard University, hidden income taxes are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices - from an average 22 percent on goods to an average 25 percent on services - for everything you buy. If competition does not allow prices to rise, corporations lower labor costs, again hurting those who can least afford to lose their jobs. Finally, if prices are as high as competition allows and labor costs are as low as practical, profits/dividends to shareholders are driven down, thereby hurting retirement savings for moms-and-pops and pension funds invested in Corporate America.

With the FairTax, the sham of corporate taxation ends, competition drives prices down, more people in America have jobs, and retirement/pension funds see improved performance.

14 posted on 02/13/2005 10:53:19 AM PST by Principled
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To: nsmart; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; Zon; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If you would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25), offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright, and provide a IRS free replacement in the form of a retail sales tax:

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


15 posted on 02/13/2005 10:53:36 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Principled
Forgot to add: synopsis of Fair Tax nrst
16 posted on 02/13/2005 10:54:22 AM PST by Principled
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To: LauraleeBraswell

The Fair Tax Act, repeals all federal income, payroll, and gift/estate taxes.


17 posted on 02/13/2005 10:55:26 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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I certainly hope we get some real discussion.

If history is any guide this could be the longest thread you have ever posted. This issue needs vetting. I have been an advocate of the Fair Tax for years and the more we look at it the more I like it. It isn't perfect and it still allows way too much government revenue but it's the best proposal on the table.

18 posted on 02/13/2005 10:56:15 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: nsmart

Percent, please.


19 posted on 02/13/2005 10:56:43 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: ancient_geezer

thanks ancient_geezer


20 posted on 02/13/2005 10:57:12 AM PST by nsmart
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