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FairTax.Org HR25
WWW.FAIRTAX.ORG ^ | Last Week | Thomas Leser

Posted on 02/13/2005 10:41:05 AM PST by nsmart

The FairTax is the non-partisan national sales tax proposal that would replace all federal income taxes. These include personal, estate, gift, self-employment, alternative minimum, capital gains, FICA, and corporate and death taxes.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: consumptiontax; endincometax; fairtax; fairtaxorg; hr25; incometaxes; taxes; taxreform
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To: nsmart

What will all the accountants and tax lawyers do for livings? ;^)


41 posted on 02/13/2005 11:21:11 AM PST by hoosiermama (It's more than an election...It's a change of heart....an enlightenment....life is important)
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To: Principled
Dale Jorgenson, former Harvard University economics department chairman, projected an average product price reduction of 20 percent to 30 percent in the first year after adoption of the FairTax.
42 posted on 02/13/2005 11:21:27 AM PST by Always Right
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To: hoosiermama
What will all the accountants and tax lawyers do for livings? ;^)

There is still plenty of accounting to do and there is still tax compliance. Tax compliance is just a small aspect.

43 posted on 02/13/2005 11:22:40 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
THat's right - pretax prices will dro 20-30 (inclusive) the first year

Do you know how to translate from inclusive to exclusive? Did you know there was a difference?

44 posted on 02/13/2005 11:22:43 AM PST by Principled
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To: Always Right

My point exatly. with the corporat income taxes eliminated the market will force the prices down.

Chris


45 posted on 02/13/2005 11:22:50 AM PST by cdtracing
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To: groanup

Me thinks we have a contrarian in our midst.


46 posted on 02/13/2005 11:23:18 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Always Right

20-30 is not 30-40. check yer posts.


47 posted on 02/13/2005 11:23:27 AM PST by Principled
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To: cdtracing

Not to mention corporations coming back to America. And stripping the products of all the built in taxes will mean our products will once again be able to compete overseas.


48 posted on 02/13/2005 11:24:38 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Principled
20-30 is not 30-40. check yer posts.

It is still fantasy bullshit, either way. We will be lucky if prices stay the same.

49 posted on 02/13/2005 11:25:10 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Principled
THat's right - pretax prices will dro 20-30 (inclusive) the first year

That is not what he said or how the statement was presented.

50 posted on 02/13/2005 11:25:59 AM PST by Always Right
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To: hoosiermama

The tax attorneys will be forced to "produce" something. They will contribute to the economy!!! Their human capital will not be lost down a rat hole.


51 posted on 02/13/2005 11:26:26 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Always Right
Oh I see. You were wrong in what you said, you admit it - you have nothing indicating your position is valid at all, but you use profanity to say you're right anyway.

Stong argument.

52 posted on 02/13/2005 11:26:38 AM PST by Principled
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To: nsmart

Ditto, forgot that one. Thanks.

Chris


53 posted on 02/13/2005 11:27:07 AM PST by cdtracing
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To: nsmart
The tax attorneys will be forced to "produce" something. They will contribute to the economy!!!

Most will simply work in financial planning - helping folks sae for the future - rather than record the past. JMHO

54 posted on 02/13/2005 11:27:46 AM PST by Principled
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To: Principled

That's true. And investments create jobs.. whoever the hell decided to tax investments was a dim-bulb.


55 posted on 02/13/2005 11:34:31 AM PST by nsmart
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To: nsmart
Me thinks we have a contrarian in our midst.

And we haven't even heard from Your Nightmare or lewislynn yet.

Regarding the consumer price issue. I don't think the disappearance of embedded taxes will result in the level of price depreciation that some of the Fair Taxers do. I think the number can be show to be 10-15% lower. A large part of embedded prices is labor and I believe (some will disagree) that any further lessening of prices would have to come from decreased wages.

However, by freeing up corporations from income taxes and payroll taxes and by taxing the underground economy as well as foreign tourists and goods American companies would be unleashed to pursue explosive growth. America would become the world's largest tax haven and internationals would beat a path to our door to build production facilities here. Jobs? We'll have them.

The sheer boom factor would create so much prospertity and competition that these arguments would seem moot.

56 posted on 02/13/2005 11:35:04 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: groanup

...and we haven't even gotten to illegal immigrants.

To receive the pre-bate, you must have a VALID SS#. Even illegals have to buy food, etc. so they will be paying the sales tax but not receiving the pre-bate. This will create a HUGE incentive to become legal.


57 posted on 02/13/2005 11:39:34 AM PST by nsmart
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To: nsmart
The tax attorneys will be forced to "produce" something

I work in conjunction with a large CPA firm. Tax is only one part of their practice and they aren't even doing most of the returns anymore, they send them to India. Under a NRST they would be retained by businesses collecting the tax to keep the books straight but undoubtedly that would be a less lucrative venture since it doesn't require so much interpretation and consulting. They aren't worried. They will still have auditing, forensics, financial planning, etc.

58 posted on 02/13/2005 11:40:06 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: nsmart
This will create a HUGE incentive to become legal.

Excellent point.

59 posted on 02/13/2005 11:41:04 AM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: groanup

This NRST really galls the leftists. How can they 'soak' the rich with a scheme like this? Its not 'progressive' enough for them. Even though the rich buy the high cost items and will pay the bulk of the taxes.. with NO POSSIBLITY OF LOOPHOLE. LOL


60 posted on 02/13/2005 11:42:37 AM PST by nsmart
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