Posted on 02/12/2005 4:01:35 AM PST by Snapple
I am not big on genealogy, but for Indians this is a big deal. Your tribal affiliation has a lot to do with how they relate to you.
If Ward Churchill were even culturally Indian, he would respect that custom and not call this "poodle pedagrees."
If anyone can claim to be an Indian, he can also claim assets that are for Indians.
Churchill tried to make money painting by saying his paintings were "Indian." This was a lie.
He was misrepresenting his work as Indian and taking advantage of some special program to benefit Indian artists.
Ward Churchill has been a major figure in AIM for years.
I want to learn more about his ties to some of the violence of AIM's Dog Soldiers.
A lot of people say that they are afraid of Churchill. He has assaulted a woman. He speaks surrounded by AIM security, according to the Indians. These are probably the Dog Soldiers.
AIM bobmed MT Rushmore Visitor Center and drove all over the place with bombs and guns.
Churchill seeks the overthrow of the US government. He isn't just talking, in my opinion.
One clue will be to catch Lee Hill, an AIM lawyer who is hiding from the Boulder police.
Lee Hill assaulted his wife and had weapons and burlar tools.
A lot of the AIM people were really criminals--drug dealers and burglars who preyed on Indians. They wanted the FBI off the reservations so they could victimize the Indians so they made up a lot of lies about the FBI.
Some of these peope are real gangsters.
Find Lee Hill.
Hill and Churchill should really be investigated.
In a word, no. In fact, if I had a shiny Buffalo nickel for every individual I heard claim that he's "one-sixteenth Cherokee," I'd have a nice little pile of coins.
recent photographs show churchill with brown hair, and now some aging grey, white hair.
in the 1980s he had black hair.
i wonder if he dyed his hair in the 1980s to create his image as indian?
On what the Federal Welfare system has done to Native Americans:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/NativeAmericans.htm
Has anyone stopped to think about who our allies were as we rolled from coast to coast, picking off one tribe after another?
Why the other tribes of course!
We never could have conquered the "Native Americans" so quickly without "Native American" allies playing a leading role.
With all due respect, there was nothing quick about it, nor did native Americans everywhere play a leading role in ending the troublesome depredations of some of the more warlike tribes.
If Samuel Walker was still around, and in the mood to reminisce, he might tell you the 1843 Paterson Colt had something to do with it (Captain John Coffee certainly would), and later his namesake six shot .44 caliber Walker Colt pistol had a heck of a lot more to do with it.
History frequently varies according to time and place.
I'm totally amazed at Russ Means' support of this idiot. I was under the impression that he thought Churchill was a white guy Indian-wannabe. I guess that would be Dennis Banks' (another AIM founder who is currently active, unlike Means) line. Must have mixed up the two.
Anyways, the Indian woman reporter is right when she says that talking about ones' people (ie: Indian heritage and living relatives) is like saying "hello." Whenever I meet another Indian, we always ask about each other's people and tribe.
I know the names of most of my immediate relatives from both the Keeweena Bay Indian Community in Michigan and the White Earth Reservations in Minnesota. Ward Churchill is a big, fat fraud.
Considering the weapons employed, the sheer size of the North American continent and the odds, that's pretty quick, IMO.
Right from the start various tribes in the east threw in with either the French or English against their "brothers". In Mexico Cortez never would have succeeded without the aid of thousands of Indian allies.
You're thinking of west of the Mississippi where the weaponry became more sophisticated and even then we used Indians as allies and scouts.
Ever wonder why it took the better part of 200 years to beat the eastern woodland Indians and about 90 years to beat the rest?
I think we'd still be chasing Apaches around the mountains if it weren't for our Navajo soldiers and scouts, regardless of six-shooters.
Ward Churchill has only been an AIM fixture in Denver. The AIM leadership does not like or believe Churchill's line. There was a previous FR thread regarding an official AIM statement disavowing Churchill whose Denver AIM group does and says what it wants without approval of the actual AIM leadership. The Denver AIM organization is even farther left of the original AIM group, unbelievable as that may seem.
Hell, the Denver group is as much of a fraud as Churchill - the Denver group is one of those bulls**t "Autonomous AIM Chapters", which anyone in the real A.I.M. would tell you is a bunch of hooey...
Ya got that right. The so-called Denver AIM "Chapter" has been doing its own thing for some time, much to the embarrassment and consternation of the legitimate AIM leadership. Churchill must have some sort of mind control going on with some Indian people. As for white far-leftists like Chomsky--they'll fall for just about anything if it's couched in enough virulent rhetoric.
I've seen a moderation in AIM over the years - nowhere near as far left as they used to be, which makes me happy (and more willing to talk to some of relatives who belong to it) but the Denver "chapter" is a joke.
Ward churchill is Russell Means' svengali. That alone is enough to get enough indians to follow him...
I also find it interesting that some Seminoles from Florida (actually a mixture of Georgia Indians and runaway black slaves) wound up in South Texas. They even have a reservation, I believe.
Considering the weapons employed, the sheer size of the North American continent and the odds, that's pretty quick, IMO.
Except for weaponry (or technology), you actually seem to agree with me.
But, I won't argue the point(s). Not here, anyway. I'm already feeling guilty, because this kinda hijacks the thread. I apologize to Snapple and the other posters for doing so.
However, should you come across a suitable thread sometime, please give me a ping. I think here is plenty in your post to make for an interesting, enjoyable disagreement.
Yeah, but how come the Germans who settled in central Texas generally had good relations with the local Indians, while the Anglos and even the Mexicans did not?
Yeah to what? :-)
The German settlers had their bad times, including murders, stolen livestock, and stolen children. But, generally, you're right. The Germans of central Texas enjoyed the longest stretch of relative peace, all the more remarkable because the treaty-like relationship was with the Comanche who ranged and raided from Colorado to Mexico.
I also find it interesting that some Seminoles from Florida (actually a mixture of Georgia Indians and runaway black slaves) wound up in South Texas. They even have a reservation, I believe.
Their descendants wish they had a reservation, but I don't believe they do. I think some descendants are scattered around in Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas. Some live in the Brackettville area where nearby Fort Clark still stands. The Black Seminole won, I think, four Medals of Honor during Randall Mackenzie's (4th Cavalry) foray into Mexico on a punitive expedition against the Kickapoo.
I'd love to read a good historical account, or a novel, about their exploits under the command of Lt. John Bullis.
> Funny how "all roads lead to Noam."
Change that to:
All bent roads lead to Noam.
Ya got that one right, too! ...at least as I see it.
Way back when, my father, an Ojibwa who was raised on the Ontonagon Reservation, joined the Army Air Corps at the end of WWII and went to college (a first on the Indian side of my family) on the GI Bill. He became a radio engineer, then a radio/TV personality and producer. My dad instilled in me a respect for the FCC and a hatred of the BIA. ;)
When the American Indian Movement took over the corrupt (still is, IMHO) Bureau of Indian Affairs Building in DC in the early 70's, my whole family cheered. (We have a documented family history of dealing with corrupt BIA agents.) My dad got through to Russ Means and Dennis Banks during that time for a brief long-distance telephone interview. He almost lost his job! Fortunately, he and the station owner were duck-hunting buddies and close friends. :)
In the 1980's, my father lived briefly on the Onondaga Reservation in Upstate NY while Dennis Banks was hiding out from the Feds. Banks did the right thing by finally giving himself up and doing the time for some of his AIM activities. Now, Dennis has become an Indian Traditionalist. He hunts, harvests wild rice, and lives a generally peaceful life. Yeah, he still has issues, but if you read his biography "Ojibwa Warrior", you can tell he is not the lefty rebel he once was.
Russ Means is now a somewhat conservative Libertarian and in some instances has supported Republican candidates. Which makes his support of a charleton like Churchill purplexing to me.
Most of my family is in TV/radio or some aspect of the entertainment industry. They are mostly Democrats, so that makes family get togethers interesting. Of course, I once was a Democrat, so there is still hope for my family.
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