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Official says hundreds of U.S. citizens likely died in gulags
CNN ^ | Friday, February 11, 2005 | Barbara Starr

Posted on 02/11/2005 8:54:23 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood

Official says hundreds of U.S. citizens likely died in gulags

Friday, February 11, 2005 Posted: 9:36 AM EST (1436 GMT) WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. military service members may have been imprisoned and died in Soviet forced-labor camps during the 20th century, according to a Pentagon report to be released Friday.

Researchers for the U.S.-Russia Joint Commission on POW/MIAs have been investigating unconfirmed reports of Americans who were held prisoner in the so-called gulags.

"I personally would be comfortable saying that the number [of Americans held in the gulags during the Cold War and Korean War] is in the hundreds," said Norman Kass, executive secretary of the commission's U.S. section.

The Soviet gulag system remained strong until the death of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin in 1953. But some camps remained in existence for years afterward.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: coldwar; evilempire; gulag; gulagstudy; koreanwar; powmia; sovietunion; usmilitary
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I wouldn't be surprised if the number eventually climbed from the hundreds into the thousands.

A prayer for Stanley Warner.

NEVER FORGET!

1 posted on 02/11/2005 8:54:24 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Timely, considering today's death of Arthur Miller, Stalin-promoter.


2 posted on 02/11/2005 8:56:28 AM PST by aculeus
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Well this will certainly make the anti-war, anti-American, anti-military, communist and socialist loving democrats around the country extremely happy and joyful. I am sure a glass of red wine will be drank in toast to this good news for them this weekend. Probably led by the communist at the University of Colorado.
3 posted on 02/11/2005 8:56:49 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America will NEVER be free as long as we have Democrats.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Wow, I had no idea the number was so large!


4 posted on 02/11/2005 8:59:49 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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Wow, I had no idea the number was so large!

I take no joy in predicting that it will grow. God bless our POWs!

5 posted on 02/11/2005 9:01:54 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: Shermy

Russia ping list may find this interesting.


6 posted on 02/11/2005 9:04:10 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Are you kidding? There's been some accounting in the past of the number of airmen that were shot down during the Cold War and that number is suprising as well. It really was WW3.


7 posted on 02/11/2005 9:04:44 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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Researchers for the U.S.-Russia Joint Commission on POW/MIAs have been investigating unconfirmed reports of Americans who were held prisoner in the so-called gulags.

So-called? What is so-called about them, what else would we call them? Forced labor camps, death camps, frozen hell? All of those work, but I am sure that the author would most likely prefer something like "relocation camps".

I think that anyone wearing a Che shirt should be required to spend a week in one of these camps, to see what communism really is.

8 posted on 02/11/2005 9:05:06 AM PST by Sthitch
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To: RetiredArmy

What I find particularly outrageous is that the Soviets were holding American POWs in World War II-when they were supposed to be our allies.


9 posted on 02/11/2005 9:06:29 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: Sthitch
the so-called gulags.

So-called? What is so-called about them...?

Damn good point. It's almost as if the MSM is still spinning for the Soviet Union...

10 posted on 02/11/2005 9:08:53 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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I thought sKerry and McLame shredded that evidence ... or was that just for Vietnam-era prisoners?


11 posted on 02/11/2005 9:09:11 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

When are they going to turn over the records is what I want to know. The families have a right to know.


13 posted on 02/11/2005 9:11:14 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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The families have a right to know.

Amen to that.

14 posted on 02/11/2005 9:12:00 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: freedom44

Cuba ping list may find this of interest.


15 posted on 02/11/2005 9:12:25 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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Ralph Peters was on one of the 90s whitewash commissions sent over to nose around for remains in Siberia. He has some interesting things to say on the topic, all of which agree with this article.


16 posted on 02/11/2005 9:14:33 AM PST by BroncosFan ("It's worse than a crime - it's a mistake." Talleyrand.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Maybe I am confused, but I thought that Joseph Stalin and the Communists were always the "good guys" ? They never hurt anyone or did anything wrong! (Sarcasm).

Ever wonder why Stalin historically receives little serious criticism for murdering 40-60+ million? (some estimates are on the 60+ side). No one seems to want to deal with it. And we know that all the Marxist college professors can not be trusted to shed light of the darker side of the Soviet Union...


17 posted on 02/11/2005 9:14:58 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (The Chinese military is the opposition force. Traitors at home aid and abet them.)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

What is clear that entry to the gulag for an American was a death sentence. Ever hear of an American "former gulag prisoner?" No way the Soviets could ever let them out after what they saw in the gulag. The only difference in American opinion between Hitler and Stalin is that Americans who saw the Death Camps in Germany came home to talk about it. The same cannot be said for any American unfortunate enough to see the inside of the gulag.

In WW2, as the Red Army was overrunning eastern Europe, many western POW's in German custody PREFERRED to remain in German custody and flee to the west, rather than be "liberated" by the Soviets. A number of the POW's assisted in civilian refugee evacuations.

Very wise move on their part, I think.


18 posted on 02/11/2005 9:15:25 AM PST by henkster ("The time has come for someone to put their foot down, and that foot is me." Dean Vernon Wormer)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Early 1950s spyplanes out of Yakota AFB in Japan suffered several "did not return" flights over the USSR. We always wondered if they were taken alive.


19 posted on 02/11/2005 9:15:41 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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Calling JohnFnKerry & JohnnyMeCain!

NOT!

20 posted on 02/11/2005 9:18:22 AM PST by TexasCajun
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