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It's not every day we get a platypus thread these days.
1 posted on 02/11/2005 6:49:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 02/11/2005 6:50:28 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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The existence of the platypus is proof that if evolution doesn't existt then God has a wicked sense of humour.


3 posted on 02/11/2005 6:53:56 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: PatrickHenry
This wouldn't be one of those "transition species" would it?

Nah! Couldn't be.

5 posted on 02/11/2005 6:56:19 AM PST by narby (Evolution isn't an Intelligent design, its a Brilliant Design)
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To: PatrickHenry
Adult males have a pointed spur located just above the heel of each hind leg,
which can be used to inject poison produced by a gland in the thigh.

http://rainforest-australia.com/platypus_poison.htm
(weird)
6 posted on 02/11/2005 6:57:31 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: PatrickHenry
It does complicate things. Here's a seemingly ancestral monotreme which lived long (80 million years or so) after Hadrocodium, a supposedly basal modern mammal, only the later monotreme has a more primitive ear arrangement than the earlier Hadro.

It will be lawyered to death, much like the continued existence of monkeys and fish, and Archaeopteryx who could fly being older than the Chinese feathered dinos which could not.

9 posted on 02/11/2005 7:05:01 AM PST by VadeRetro
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I had to stop to look at a platypus thread. You never know what you will find of FR.


10 posted on 02/11/2005 7:06:32 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: PatrickHenry
All this changed when James Hopson, a vertebrate palaeontologist at University of Chicago, Illinois, took a trip to Australia.

I've met Jim a few times. He's great to talk to. His wife worked in my department.
11 posted on 02/11/2005 7:08:45 AM PST by aruanan
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To: PatrickHenry
Birds and reptiles have only one bone to perform this function.

Liberals, too.

15 posted on 02/11/2005 7:25:16 AM PST by pabianice
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Evolved twice? Give me a break. Do people really not understand that evolution involves random mutations and then the death of all non-mutated individuals and their offspring?

The fact is that intelligent people believe in evolution because they believe that intelligent people believe in evolution. (Think about that one for a moment).

We each have a brain to think for ourselves. Most people, for example, aren't aware that after nearly 50 years of intensive efforts, science abandoned laboratory efforts in the late 90's to create the simplest precursors to a living organism. Yet they continue to cling to the notion that such a process occurred by itself over billions of years.

Let's say you gathered all the parts of a watch -- crystal, springs, gears, hands, etc. (which is far less complex than the simplest organism) -- and threw them at your wrist. Do you think they would EVER assemble themselves into a functioning watch? Or how many times would you have to throw your shoelaces at your shoes before they laced themselves up?

THINK for yourself !! Evolutionists have a viewpoint that is as tenacious as a religion.


16 posted on 02/11/2005 7:25:21 AM PST by Elpasser
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For a single example, a birth defect in which some part of the fetus fails to develop fully can't be ruled out.


19 posted on 02/11/2005 7:33:33 AM PST by Grut
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2 more missing transitionals!!


21 posted on 02/11/2005 7:38:14 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Cool! :-)


33 posted on 02/11/2005 7:56:10 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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"Some embryologists had the idea that it might be convergent but nobody really believed this," says palaeontologist Thomas Martin of the Senckenberg Research Institute in Frankfurt, Germany. "I was quite shocked when I heard that such a complex morphological transformation happened twice."

:-} I'll bet.

34 posted on 02/11/2005 8:01:43 AM PST by jwalsh07
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Platypus fact. It is the only venomous mammal.


50 posted on 02/11/2005 8:35:30 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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>Its jawbone structure, along with its place in the evolutionary tree, hints that a common ancestor to all these mammals lacked the special three-bone ear structure.

This means that natural selection must [be a load of crap...]have driven the same rearrangement in independent groups, after the monotreme split. "Some embryologists had the idea that it might be convergent but nobody really believed this," says palaeontologist Thomas Martin of the Senckenberg Research Institute in Frankfurt, Germany. "I was quite shocked when I heard that such a complex morphological transformation happened twice[or NEVER]."

The discovery will compel many experts to rethink their [bogus concepts] appreciation of mammals' common evolutionary heritage. "Until now it was considered to be one of the most important shared derived characteristics of modern mammals," says Martin.<


55 posted on 02/11/2005 8:38:35 AM PST by G Larry (Admiral James Woolsey for National Intelligence Director)
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And it's lactation, which is quite different in form from that of other mammals, is the main reasons for calling it a mammal. Maybe the monotremes should be raised to the level of a distinct Class?


66 posted on 02/11/2005 9:02:20 AM PST by Stultis
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When I was a kid, I always questioned why monotremes were lumped with placentals and marsupials under the "Eutheria" category when it seemed so much more obvious to me that they should be classified as the last surviving theraspids instead. Of course, I also thought that hyaenas were related to bears and dogs instead of cats and civets, that mudskippers were close to ancestors of amphibians, etc, and learning about the common jaw and ear structure between the mammal types (something which Ichneumon has posted on the crevo lists before) temporarily put that piece of adolescent armchair theorizing to rest. But now....


70 posted on 02/11/2005 9:09:30 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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How do bone spurs on the lower mandible function as part of an acoustic sensor?
74 posted on 02/11/2005 9:24:38 AM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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It's not every day we get a platypus thread these days.

Your right, I mean platypus(i)(es) aren't as popular as Meerkats, weasels and/or skunks (unless you a liberal Democrat/RINO, on last two) or some other Disney animated cartoon character.

80 posted on 02/11/2005 9:31:45 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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monotremes rule


82 posted on 02/11/2005 9:35:36 AM PST by xp38
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