[hedgetrimmer]

FYI

[Ezekiel 34]

IMHO just a "sign of the times." One of the many events to occur on the way to a {shudder} one-world government.

[blackeagle]

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[DoughtyOne]

Thank you. This is a very important topic. It's perhaps the most significant threat ever to sovereignty and self-determination for citizens of the United States.

I say this because we're not talking about 1930,40s Germany or a Japan from the same era. No, what we're talking about here will take place at our borders and on our soil. It won't look like a threat. It will be wrapped in nice pretty paper with a great big bow, but when you open it look out, it's a stinker like nothing before it.

Through NGOs, the United Nations will be up to it's chin in this effort. Socialist sell-outs will abound.

Being sold as a trade-agreement, this is nothing less than global governance brought to a nation near you. Your own!

If this passes, every soldier that died to create and protect this nation will have done so that we could give self-determination, our moral judgement, everything that we are, away.

Citizens from other nations that we do not vote for will be making the rules. People from Canada to Mexico to Columbia to Peru to Brazil and every other point in this hemisphere, will have equal say about what goes on in the United States, as you do. Sound like something you want to risk your children's future on?

Please folks, if you ever gave a damn about this nation, this is the time to stand up and be counted. LOUDLY!

I don't generally say things like this, but here goes anyway. If there were ever a righteous cause for a lynch mob, this could be the one.

[raybbr]

I guess the socialists have won. It seems no one wants America to a superpower anymore. We must all be equal.

Let the border die!!!

Remittances from the US to Latin America, 2004

Total amount sent via remittances to Latin America			Average amount sent by each Latin American immigrant
California	$9,610 million		Maryland	$2,897.00
New York	$3,562 million		North Carolina	$2,864.00
Texas	$3,180 million		Alabama	$2,797.00
Florida	$2,450 million		Georgia	$2,743.00
Illinois	$1,528 million		Virginia	$2,671.00
New Jersey	$1,371 million		District Of Columbia	$2,629.00
Georgia	$947 million		New York	$2,493.00
North Carolina	$833 million		Massachusetts	$2,491.00
Arizona	$606 million		Missouri	$2,303.00
Virginia	$586 million		New Jersey	$2,261.00
Colorado	$544 million		South Carolina	$2,261.00
Massachusetts	$527 million		Arkansas	$2,244.00
Maryland	$500 million		Connecticut	$2,230.00
Nevada	$447 million		Ohio	$2,169.00
Washington	$353 million		Nebraska	$2,166.00
Oregon	$218 million		Tennessee	$2,132.00
Michigan	$192 million		Indiana	$2,084.00
Indiana	$190 million		Pennsylvania	$2,050.00
Pennsylvania	$180 million		Michigan	$2,041.00
Utah	$164 million		Kentucky	$2,033.00
Tennessee	$162 million		Colorado	$2,008.00
Oklahoma	$156 million		Washington	$1,950.00
Wisconsin	$152 million		Iowa	$1,887.00
Alabama	$149 million		Minnesota	$1,877.00
South Carolina	$148 million		Oklahoma	$1,870.00
Minnesota	$147 million		Wisconsin	$1,849.00
Connecticut	$129 million		Illinois	$1,841.00
Arkansas	$114 million		Nevada	$1,823.00
Ohio	$108 million		California	$1,787.00
Missouri	$105 million		Utah	$1,785.00
New Mexico	$103 million		Idaho	$1,774.00
Idaho	$96 million		Kansas	$1,732.00
District Of Columbia	$94 million		Louisiana	$1,569.00
Kansas	$94 million		Oregon	$1,482.00
Nebraska	$80 million		Florida	$1,363.00
Iowa	$69 million		Texas	$1,249.00
Louisiana	$61 million		Arizona	$1,132.00
Kentucky	$53 million		New Mexico	$776.00
37 States and DC	$30,008 million		37 States and DC	$1,804.00
Remaining States	$132 million		Remaining States	$1,854.00
Total US	$30,140 million		Total US	$1,805.00

[investigateworld]

The OBL and free trade crowd will be here soon enough to chastise us.

[foobeca]

We're doomed! The sky is falling! The same arguments were made against NAFTA and once again the doom and gloomers were wrong.

Opening up markets is NOT socialist, closing them is. Free trade is economic freedom. Why are we afraid of competing against the Mexicans, Brazilians, and Argentines?

The reason for the illegal immigration is simple. Welfare and other social programs. People will no sneak over the border to make $3/hr working in a field. Their wages are supplemented in the form of free health care, food stamps, subsidized housing, welfare checks, free education. They are really making a lot more than $3/hr with all the free govt. benefits they get.

The reason that the problem of illegal immigration doesn't get fixed is that the rats want cheap votes and the republicans want cheap workers for the farmers in flyover country.

There is not free trade in Europe. Protectionism abounds there. Except for N. Korea, Europe's markets are more closed and restricted than anywhere else.

The misunderstanding of economics in this country is frightening. Trade is not a zero sum game. We are Americans and if we want to, we can compete against the mexicans, the chinese, and the indians.

Do we really want to be like N. Korea where there is virtually no trade? Or do we want to be like Hong Kong where income per capita has risen from $200 after WWII to $29,000 today?

[Betis70]

bookmark for later reading.

[Indie]

Here come the bots to the defense of freely traitorous trade and immigration amnesty. That was record time.

[Age of Reason]

OMG.

If this article has something important to say, it had better say it more simply--or not say it at all for all the good it will do.

[lainde]

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[-=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-]

it make sense to do "free" trade with Canada, but Mexico????
I don't consider Mexico part of north america.

[F16Fighter]

To fully understand the depravity and future jeopardy of the FTAA and NAFTA all one needs to do is look at Europe, where 30+ years of free-trade and “harmonization” of business, industry, agriculture, transportation, immigration, education, and soon to be defense, have amounted to nothing but a transfer of power from the people to the government. “Harmonization” (as so quoted by our leaders) is nothing more than consolidation and centralization of the economy and political sector. It is a process of transferring civil powers to multi-national and international political powers (which was the case in the creation of the monstrous E.U).

Ha! What New World Order??

And who among us after reading the game-plan still feels the President of the United States is NOT selling out America?

Only those refusing to pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

We ARE a lobsters in the water...simmering....

[spodefly]

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[BurbankKarl]

What border?

You would be amazed at the number of vehicle with Mexico plates driving around Southern California. Law Enforcement has no recourse, as there is no wanted/stolen database to check against.

[philetus]

Take a look at this

[Missouri]

Bump.

[chronic_loser]

Quite possibly the most stupid and surface analysis of an issue I have ever had the displeasure of reading. A couple of points in rebuttal:

1) Common markets ONLY lead to centralization when the countries involved are socialist leaning in the first place. Using Europe as an example of "what happens when you try to have common markets" is so mindless that it hurts my brain just trying to sink down and answer such a cretin proposition.

2) On the same basic topic, but on a different slant, is the assertion that common markets erode individual sovereignty. They most assuredly do NOT. The fact that you have a bunch of prissy rulemakers in Belgium intent on regulating the size of a pint of beer in England is NOT a comment on the nature of markets. It is a comment on how the method for fixing sick and crippled markets is not to simply make them bigger. You just get BIG sick and crippled markets that way. The trick is to make them free, not big. Erosion of sovereignty comes as bureaucrats feel compelled to twiddle with legislating the "rules" surrounding trade.

3) The cause for our immigration problems have nothing to do with FREE markets. Rather, we have chosen to adopt anti market strategies to deal with our social problems (poverty, retirement, medical costs, product and workplace safety, etc). The problem is, laws of the market cannot be legislated away, no matter how well intentioned the programs legislated to do so. Invariably, other market forces come into conflict with them, as they have here. We NEED entry level labor, due to a growing economy and a declining birthrate. However, we are afraid that allowing workers in legally would add to the list of those entitled to our socialistic programs (welfare, unemployment, medicaid, etc), so we leave our borders open to get them in, but refuse to give them status. This is hypocritical, exploitative, non-thinking, and produces three REALLY bad results. One, it makes a porous border so that instead of a stream, we have an overwhelming flood. Two, because it is risky to get in, people stay rather than do what they would normally do, which is rotate (I know several contractors who used to work here from March to November and return to Mexico to be with family. They did that on a yearly basis, but now stay because they are afraid they won't be able to return). Three, it produces resentment from many who see the strain placed on our system and "play by the rules." For a great analysis, see the CATO institute's paper on guest labor programs in the past.

4) The answer is NOT to slam shut the border, deport the illegals, and create an army of bureaucrats to hunt down and fine businesses who hire illegals. You think that will fix the problem? Look at Japan. There is a GREAT example of a protected economy. They adopt most of the xenophobe proposals of the anti immigrant crowd here on Free Republic. Rather it produces more of what already ails us, artificially high labor rates (hint: labor rates are different from wage scales), ossified systems of regulatory compliance, stratified social classes, and an inability to respond, even when the system is collapsing for need of innovation (read: "banking system in Japan")

Immigration and free (common) markets are two different, although related, topics. This article is yellow journalism, attempting to rouse the already frothing bigots (and God knows there are more than a few on Free Republic!) in the hopes of getting some other folks to see all the hoopla and hop on and say "see, it didn't work in Europe...., maybe Pat Buchanan is right after all!"

Finally, for those hapless xenophobes who hate what I am saying but can't string enough firing neurons together to do anything other than attack a handle ("chronic_loser"), just pretend the handle reads "flamebait for the neurally vacant" and respond accordingly.

[nicmarlo]

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