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Bush backs restraints on illegal immigrants
The Orange County Register ^ | Wednesday, February 9, 2005 | By DENA BUNIS

Posted on 02/09/2005 3:23:08 PM PST by So Cal Rocket

White House sides with bill to bar illegal immigrants from using driver's licenses to board planes or enter federal facilities.

WASHINGTON – The Bush administration today gave a boost to a Republican-backed measure being debated on the House floor this week that would bar illegal immigrants from using driver's licenses to board airplanes or enter federal facilities.

All five GOP House members from Orange County have co-sponsored the measure.

"The administration strongly supports House passage of HR418, to strengthen the ability of the United States to protect against terrorist entry into and activities within the United States," said a policy statement issued today.

This is the first such sweeping support of the bill by President George W. Bush. How members vote on this measure could be the first indication of where lawmakers stand on the broader, more controversial issue of immigration reform.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; hr418; immigration; nationalid; statesrights; unappeasable; whinybabiesunite
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To: Bush_Democrat
OMG, what will the Bush-Bashers complain about NOW???

Read the following quote slowly.
"White House sides with bill to bar illegal immigrants from using driver's licenses to board planes or enter federal facilities."
Now think about what it says. Read it again VERY slowly and tell us that what it says have any significant consequence???

61 posted on 02/09/2005 4:43:31 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Reagan Man

FYI - Reagan provided Amnesty for some 2 million illegal immigrants while he was president.

Not that I agree with that decision. I just found your last response interesting and was wondering how you equate that decision to his great conservative agenda.


62 posted on 02/09/2005 4:44:41 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Tempest

KEWL FR-homepage, T. Thanks for the references.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~tempest/


63 posted on 02/09/2005 4:45:26 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Southack

Good stuff. But I'm under the impression that President Bush will never go far enough for some....


64 posted on 02/09/2005 4:47:17 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Joe Boucher
How about making it a jailable offense to hire illegals. That in a nut shell would stop illegal entry.

And denying 'anchor babies' U.S. citzenship because their mothers made it ILLEGALLY into to the U.S. Their citzenship should be based on whether or not the mothers had the legal right to be in the U.S.

65 posted on 02/09/2005 4:52:19 PM PST by xJones
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To: So Cal Rocket

White House sides with bill to bar illegal immigrants from using driver's licenses to board planes or enter federal facilities.

If their "illegal" what are they doing here boarding planes or federal facilities---unless it's a federal prison.


66 posted on 02/09/2005 4:53:17 PM PST by Isabelle
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To: COEXERJ145
(Actually it doesn't matter what the President does, they'll always attack him. They hate him as much as the Democrats do and wouldn't stop if he did every single thing they wanted.)

Have you always agreed 100% with President Bush on every single issue?

67 posted on 02/09/2005 4:54:41 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Feel free to use it to bring certain low profile conservative news stories to the attention of the MSM. Or use it to smack them down when they screw up or slant some story also.


68 posted on 02/09/2005 4:54:49 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Tempest
Being a smart-aleck will get you nowhere.

It's a well known fact, PresReagan supported the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. It was meant to be a one time deal. PERIOD. However, the consequences from the amnesty section of that legislation was far reaching. Reagan regreted having signed it. The employer sanctions were never enforced and the increased appropriations for border enforcement was woefully inadequate. Repeating passage of more bad immigration legislation, solves nothing. So far, the President has proven he is deadwrong with his weak effort to revamp US immigration policy.

69 posted on 02/09/2005 4:56:06 PM PST by Reagan Man ("Don't let the bastards grind you down." General "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell)
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To: Southack
HR418 forces states to standardize their driver's license

And, IMO, that is a good thing.

and then link all of that information directly back to a national database.

All State DL & ID info is currently linked to every Law Enforcement agency. It has been for decades.

70 posted on 02/09/2005 4:58:31 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Southack

BTW, no apologies are needed.


71 posted on 02/09/2005 5:01:04 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Reagan Man
Advancing the conservative agenda is what got Reagan, the GOP and Bush43, elected and reelected to office. You'd be better off not paying attention to the cynics and malcontents. They're never satisfied.

Many of these "cynics and malcontents" are the people who helped get Reagan, the GOP, and Bush43 elected and reelected to office. Or do you think that all conservatives think exactly alike on every single issue?

72 posted on 02/09/2005 5:06:00 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
>>>>Many of these "cynics and malcontents" are the people who helped ...

"Many". I disagree with you. Far from it.

I don't believe cynics and malcontents make up a significant level of support within the conservative movement, anymore then I believe fringe extemists and reactionary absolutists do either.

73 posted on 02/09/2005 5:14:19 PM PST by Reagan Man ("Don't let the bastards grind you down." General "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell)
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To: Southack

" No National ID Card, no new job for any American."

It's part of the New Freedom.


74 posted on 02/09/2005 5:21:25 PM PST by dljordan
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To: varon

OK, I read what you posted V E R Y - S L O W L Y, according to your instructions.

Now, my question back to you is, "Why are you relying on one sentence of a journalist's interpretation of the scope of a bill instead of reading the text of the bill yourself." That's what I did, in fact it's posted in its entirety upthread. Fortunately, I don't rely on media-filtered soundbites to determine my opinion on matters before my government, I read the actual bills myself. However, from now on, I will make sure to read everything V E R Y - S L O W L Y to make sure I understand. Thanks for the tip.


75 posted on 02/09/2005 5:37:27 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: Reagan Man

Relative to the matter of Bush's minor flip-flop on the
illegal alien issue, Carl Rove has pointed out to him
that the polls indicate that his out-of-control borders
policy is now TOTALLY at odds with the vast majority of
Americans. Rush Limbaugh, the National Review, Lou Dobbs,
Commentary, and many other conservative publications or
spokesmen have warned that the Republican coalition will
be shattered if he persists in ignoring a problem that is
not only ecomomic and social - but a national security
danger. Maybe if a few hundred illegals camp out on the ranch at Crawford and defecate in the hog's pen the reality
will come home.


76 posted on 02/09/2005 5:42:20 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: Marine Inspector

No I didn't read the bill. It doesn't change the fact that illegals will have licenses in the first place. In order for them to bar illegals from using them on planes that means they have to have one. What difference does it make? Once an illegal has a license how will someone differentiate it from a lega license?


77 posted on 02/09/2005 6:18:51 PM PST by raybbr
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To: Southack
What's wrong with a national ID card?
78 posted on 02/09/2005 6:27:30 PM PST by curiosity
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To: raybbr
How about backing a bill that would disallow them from having licenses in the first place? This is asinine. How are they going to tell if the license holder is illegal?

The Bill will prohibit federal agencies from accepting a drivers' liscence unless the state issuing the liscence verifies legal status of each applicant.

Simply mandating that states require verification of legal status may be unconstitutional on 10th Amendment grounds. Still, not having your DL accepted as ID for boarding a plane and the like will be a sufficint pain in the neck that it provides states with enough incentives to verify legal status.

79 posted on 02/09/2005 6:43:58 PM PST by curiosity
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To: raybbr
Once an illegal has a license how will someone differentiate it from a lega license?

I believe that is answered by Rep. Sensenbrenner's point, that the airlines not accept driver's licenses from those states that do not follow the federal directives on issuing driver's licenses.
80 posted on 02/09/2005 6:49:23 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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