Bush backs restraints on illegal immigrants

The Orange County Register ^ | Wednesday, February 9, 2005 | By DENA BUNIS

[Marine Inspector]

To the Bush ideologues, if you don't agree with the President 100% of time on 100% of his decision, you’re a racist, xenophobic Bush hater.

[usurper]

This is asinine. How are they going to tell if the license holder is illegal?

LOL, that was my impression as well.

As I have been saying since before the election. The fix is in. The House is going to get all or most all of their security related enhancements (including more Border Patrol Agents) and the administration is going to get their guest workers. They actually enhance each other in strictly terms of border security.

Now whether it’s a good idea from an economic point or social point of view is a different matter.

[7.62 x 51mm]

How 'bout we just eliminate the office, and descend into chaos and hell quickly, rather than do it a baby-step at a time, per their lib-dem agenda?

I'm looking for a Conservative in office; I didn't say anything about a liberal-demokkkRAT. You did. Unfortunately, there are very, very few Conservatives left in gov't service; they're all in the Private Sector.

[Reagan Man]

It struck me as funny. The fact you have a problem with that, is of no consequence. I found it humorous, that anyone would employ the word "sweeping" in conjunction with PresBush`s support for this bill. Now, if the President said he wanted to seal the borders shut, enforce existing law that punishes employers for hiring illegals and cut off government welfare payouts to illegals, I'd call that sweeping reform. The vast majority of Americans understand that after four years as POTUS, Bush hasn't gotten the job done when it comes to immigration reform.

[sweetliberty]

I think we should give them driver's licenses....with the stipulation that they are stamped ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT in bold red letters across it, and the first time it is presented for proof of identity, call it in and have them picked up!

[Marine Inspector]

It's stated purpose is the introduction of a National ID card.

According to the bill, its stated purpose is:

To establish and rapidly implement regulations for State driver's license and identification document security standards, to prevent terrorists from abusing the asylum laws of the United States, to unify terrorism-related grounds for inadmissibility and removal, and to ensure expeditious construction of the San Diego border fence.

[Tempest]

Hasn't gotten the job done and will never get the job done is two different things.

Then of course there are those that will never be happy.... So who cares about them.

[Marine Inspector]

Sorry, I've read it over about a dozen times; Could you high lite the part where it mandates that American citizens go stand in long lines in large cities to get a National ID card *prior* to applying for any new job.

[7.62 x 51mm]

MI, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. Truly, I do.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>Hasn't gotten the job done and will never get the job done is two different things.

Okay.

>>>>Then of course there are those that will never be happy.... So who cares about them.

And there are those who think Dubya walks on water. Carry on.

[Tempest]

They're better off in the private sector. More power and less unappeasable whiny brats.

[lodwick]

...or enter federal facilities.
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What about entering the COUNTRY, doofus?

[Marine Inspector]

How about making it a jailable offense to hire illegals.
That in a nut shell would stop illegal entry.

No it wouldn't. It's a finable offense now and we don't enforce that. We certainly won't enforce throwing people in jail for hiring them.

Don't get me wrong, I wish we would, but it will never happen; at least not in the numbers that would curb illegal immigration.

[samadams2000]

yeah right...

unless they start treking over his ranch in crawford he will play blind.

issue an order to protect the border. the rest is noise.

[Marine Inspector]

How are they going to tell if the license holder is illegal?

Did you read the bill?

[Tempest]

"And there are those who think Dubya walks on water. Carry on."

Uhhh yeah.. he literally "walks on water"....... Anyways.... I'll just get back to reading the snarky remarks against Mr. Waterwalker, I'm sure they'll find something else to complain about. Like the fact that they still have to pay any Federal income tax at all. .....

I mean obviously a real conservative would've abolished that by now.... I mean he's had a full 4 years....

I love the reasonable voices around here sometimes.....

[Southack]

"Sorry, I've read it over about a dozen times; Could you high lite the part where it mandates that American citizens go stand in long lines in large cities to get a National ID card *prior* to applying for any new job."

My apologies. I can't find it. I just finished listening to Rep. Sensenbrenner explain the new National ID card part of his HR418 Real ID act, yet I don't see it *anywhere* in the text.

The "national" part of this National ID card appears to not be an overt thing. Instead of a new National ID card, HR418 forces states to standardize their driver's license and then link all of that information directly back to a national database.

So it's a "national" ID card only on the hidden, back side; no new state ID card will be required for most citizens...contrary to what I posted above.

That's my error. I'm sorry. I'm a bit stunned, as I *just* listened to the Congressman explain his Real ID act...yet a new ID card per se is NOT in the text of the bill (which I posted in full above).

[dennisw]

GW has to go a lot further. His administration has zero credibility on illegal immigration. Their actions, lack of action are an insult to all legal immigrants and all Americans.

[Southack]

"GW has to go a lot further. His administration has zero credibility on illegal immigration."

Once easy, Illegal Immigration Now Risky:President Bush Builds 12 ft Tall Steel Fence Along Mexican Border From The Pacific Into Arizona, Plus Around Major Populated Areas In Arizona and Texas

[Reagan Man]

I find nothing wrong with advancing the conservative agenda. Advancing the conservative agenda is what got Reagan, the GOP and Bush43, elected and reelected to office. You'd be better off not paying attention to the cynics and malcontents. They're never satisfied.