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Why We Must Lose This War (Libs Finally Find Their True Message)
The Detroit Metro News ^ | 2.9.05 | Jack Lessenberry

Posted on 02/09/2005 10:51:50 AM PST by gopwinsin04

'The United States needs to lose this war in Iraq as soon as possible. Even more urgently, the whole world needs the United States to lose the war in Iraq.'

Author Gwynne Dyer explains how we havent grasped that the world has changed, that we aren't living in our old superpower world anymore, one in which we are the leader of the forces of light against the evil dark powers of communism.

Nor are we, in fact, even a military superpower in the way we like to think we are; in reality, our military machine can only be used by weak countries.

As he notes, 'War with a serious opponent would lead to a level of American casualties that the US public would not tolerate for long.

Dr. Dyer was born during World War II and has served in the US Navy as well as Canada and Great Britain's. He has university degrees from all three countries and a Ph.D. in miliary and Middle Eastern history.

(Excerpt) Read more at metrotimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; dyer; gwynnedyer; iraq; moonbatdyer; pantload; traitor
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61 posted on 02/09/2005 1:58:25 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

They're traitors. There's no other word for it.

Regards, Ivan


62 posted on 02/09/2005 2:00:07 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: gopwinsin04

Here's a link to what www.imdb.com (Internet Movie Data Base) has on Gwynne Dyer:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0245727/

Wait until you see his credentials here.


63 posted on 02/09/2005 2:02:39 PM PST by Former Dodger (I thought ABORTION was murder and FUR was a Woman's right to choose.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Where in the h... do you get these graphics? ROFLMAO


64 posted on 02/09/2005 2:18:13 PM PST by Smartaleck (CD "Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience")
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To: Woodworker
"The dominant motif in the Middle East during 2004 was the US war in Iraq, from the repeated sieges of Fallujah, Najaf and Karbala to the disgusting images from Abu Ghraib prison,...."

I guess the Berg and other beheadings don't "disgust" him? How about the indiscriminate murder of Iraqi civilians by "insurgents"?

No, eh? I didn't think so.

WHAT A LOSER!

I got another PHd that he can commiserate with:

I present: Mr. Jeremy Hilary Boob, PHd (PHUD)

at least he's interesting to look at, for a "Nowhere Man".

65 posted on 02/09/2005 2:23:05 PM PST by Former Dodger (I thought ABORTION was murder and FUR was a Woman's right to choose.)
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To: Smartaleck

Where else ? i makem no one else is as mean a conservative as me !


66 posted on 02/09/2005 2:25:15 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

At what point does it become ok to question their patriotism??????


67 posted on 02/09/2005 2:29:49 PM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: MadIvan
They're traitors. There's no other word for it.

That's a little harsh. This guy's a Canadian so he just sort of fits in with what passes for patriotism in the super smug new world order fantasy land north of the border that is secured and protected by hard men with guns from south of the border.

Down here in the grimy land of reality, we'd just call him a jagoff.

68 posted on 02/09/2005 2:39:45 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Former Dodger
Thanks for the ping FD.

>>>>The United States needs to lose this war in Iraq as soon as possible. Even more urgently, the whole world needs the United States to lose the war in Iraq.'<<<<<

Wow, how refreshing. Here is a blame America, leftist liberal who is actually honest about what the left and the MSM have been wanting all along. The failure of the US in the War On Terror!
69 posted on 02/09/2005 2:55:32 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: Plutarch

The concern expressed in the article about our prosperity being based on foreign investment is bogus. The industrialization of the United States during much of the nineteenth century was funded primarily by foreign investment, especially British. Foreigners invest in our economy out of pure, legitimate, enlightened self-interest. We have an immensely prosperous economy with (mostly) a rule of law, the two working together to make investing in the United States both safe and profitable. As long as we don't go socialist and weaken our military, we'll stay that way and be an investment magnet for the rest of the world. This creep suggests we do the very things that will undermine our economy and security.


70 posted on 02/09/2005 3:11:27 PM PST by libstripper
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To: BenLurkin

The beard-stroking genius professor also says Gore won the election, Americans did not walk on the moon and the Y2K crisis was misunderstood...and we should change the religious sounding San Andreas Fault to Bush's Fault of course.


71 posted on 02/09/2005 4:05:36 PM PST by Republicus2001 (C)
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To: gopwinsin04

My local paper, The Bangor Daily Snooze, prints this socialist Dyer's crap all the time and they wonder why I don't subscribe.


72 posted on 02/09/2005 5:00:03 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: gopwinsin04

Gwynne Dyer

73 posted on 02/09/2005 5:04:42 PM PST by kcvl
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To: gopwinsin04
The author is this piece is a UNeesian.
74 posted on 02/09/2005 5:04:44 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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75 posted on 02/09/2005 5:05:45 PM PST by P_A_I
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To: gopwinsin04

Dr. Dyer should take his defeatist America bashing typewriter and move to France.


76 posted on 02/09/2005 5:09:21 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Gwynne Dyer was born in Newfoundland in 1943. After studying at universities in Canada, the United States and the United Kingdom, he received his PhD in military and Middle Eastern history from the University of London.

Dyer served in the Canadian, American and British navies. He taught military history and war studies for two years at the Canadian Forces College in Toronto and for four years at the Royal Military Academy in Sandhurst.

Since he left teaching in 1973, Dyer has worked as a freelance journalist, broadcaster and lecturer. His syndicated columns on international affairs appear in a dozen languages in nearly 200 newspapers published in more than 40 countries around the world.

In 1980, Gwynne Dyer and Tina Viljoen collaborated on a seven-part television series for the National Film Board of Canada (NFB): War first telecast in Canada in 1983. Eventually, War was shown in 45 countries and one episode, "The Profession of Arms," was nominated for an Academy Award. With Viljoen, Dyer wrote a book based on the series: War, published in 1985. For the NFB and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC),Dyer and Viljoen again collaborated on Defence of Canada, a three-part series aired in 1986. Their book The Defence of Canada: In the Arms of the Empire was published in 1990. In 1994 Dyer completed a four-part series, The Human Race, which looked at the roots, nature and future of human politics. In 1995, his three-part series on peacekeeping in Bosnia, Protection Force, first aired.

Dyer has also made several radio documentaries, including a seven-hour series, The Gorbachev Revolution, and a six-hour series entitled Millennium, which aired on the CBC in the spring of 1996.

Gwynne Dyer is frequent lecturer. His reflections on Globalization and the Nation-State were published in 1996 by the Canadian Institute of International Affairs in its series Behind the Headlines.


77 posted on 02/09/2005 5:11:13 PM PST by kcvl
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To: dvwjr

Ah...thx for the info.


78 posted on 02/09/2005 5:18:37 PM PST by Caged in Canuckistan (A message from Canada: GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: libstripper
The industrialization of the United States during much of the nineteenth century was funded primarily by foreign investment, especially British.

Correct, you are. When foreign investors want to send their money to you, it only means that you are doing something right.

I still laugh about all the hand wringing in the 80s about the Japanese "buying up America." On the deals where they didn't lose the asses (Rockefeller Center & Peble Beach) they ended up building factories and employing 10s of thousands of Americans, building their peroducs here, cheaper than they could build them in Japan. Sony, Toyota, Honda, Mitisubishi --- they all found that America is a good place to do business and the American economy grew. Meanwhile, in Japan that spent 50 years worring about keeping a positive current balance account, the economy tanked because there was no incentive to move money around. It sat and stagnated.

79 posted on 02/09/2005 6:27:39 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: gopwinsin04
This guy desperately needs a good slapping around..
He would be better for the process..

He wouldn't learn anything but pay back demands it..

80 posted on 02/09/2005 6:30:08 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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