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Shouldn't that last line read, "Fundamentally that means recognizing that an economy as powerful as ours is always going to have a demand for more workers at slave wages?"
1 posted on 02/08/2005 3:47:28 PM PST by holyscroller
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Another voice heard coming from the Ivory Tower. I doubt that Mr. Murdock has much face to face contact with the people he's talking about. I'm sure he'd love to replace most of his employees with the low wage unskilled "aliens".


2 posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:49 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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I believe we need a mass amount of immigrants in order for this country to further compete with the large population emerging powers like India, China, and to a lesser extent the EU. We need to do a better job to encourage the brain dump from to America which has slowed down since 9/11. We need assimilation laws that makes everyone learn English and make every government document including ballots to be in English.
3 posted on 02/08/2005 3:51:45 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: holyscroller

Maybe? Bad link to article though!


5 posted on 02/08/2005 3:52:31 PM PST by rocksblues (Liberalism is a sickness not a political ideology)
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To: holyscroller
"at slave wages"

As long as they are paid minimum wage why should anyone else care?

By the way, how much is a slave's wage?

8 posted on 02/08/2005 4:28:20 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: holyscroller

Where's the barf alert?


9 posted on 02/08/2005 4:33:40 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: holyscroller

He's out of touch with the real problem.

It's not the American dream that the 'walls' are trying to keep immigrants away from. It is the medicare, medicaid, SSI, disability, L&I, food stamps, Section 8 subsistence, WIC, free dental, free school lunches and on and on into the bowels of Socialist America that immigrants learn how to 'game' the system to their advantage.

The immigrants of today especially the illegal ones have very low productivity, very little education, they have health problems, family poverty, language difficulties and yet 'some' are able to over come those problems but their families cannot survive on what they produce. So they resort to 'government services'.

That's what has people upset, to see their taxes (sales, property, local income) go up 15-20% a year with no material return except a larger population of people on the dole and larger government.

Immigrant males especially from Mexico will by culture often seek jobs by standing on street corners or selling produce in traffic and so on, but each of them has an extended family that are packing themselves into small apartments or homes and receiving checks from a myriad of social services.

Want a job? want to work hard? Experience the American Dream? No problem but it isn't there like it used to be. It's no longer as free a country as to afford such dreams. Most everything is regulated, controlled, supervised, insured for liability, insured for health. Day labor employers may get away with it but there's a cost. The dollars they put into the pockets of those laborers find themselves at Western Union with a wire to a bank in Mexico, where others are waiting to make the border hopping journey.

Mr. Murdoch insults the heart of America by insinuating that Aemricans are not sympathetic to the plight of poor immigrants. To the contrary Americans are compassionate to a fault. But Americans they hate being deceived by socialist bureacracy that looks upon illegal immigrants as a 'customer base' from which to grow their budgets.

Every illegal immigrant child is a basis unit for federal funding for the school in which they are enrolled.

President Bush often insults American hearts by claiming rightly or wrongly that illegal immigrants are doing jobs that Americans do not want to do.

How many fast food outlets does America need? Does President Bush have any clue as to how many heads of lettuce are thrown out each day in America? Does he know that illegal immigrant labor can reduce the cost of a head of lettuce by 20 percent yet the social service cost of extended families of those illegal immigrants raises taxes on Americans by a larger dollar amount.

So we pay less for lettuce but more in taxes, where is the benefit?

And to the canard of 'illegal immigrants pay taxes', not in a net sense. Looking at net taxes paid to services received, the net is negative.

How many Americans live in states where a sales tax if it exists has crept from 3% to 4% to 6% to 8% and further. In Washington State it is 8.8% and there are attempts every year to raise it more to 9.8% and beyond. Still that's not enough, the socialists want an income tax as well, or they will tax businesses more and now they are considering taxing certain professionals such as doctors a certain percentage of their salary.

Mr. Murdoch is a billionaire who more than likely has an entire office engineering his own personal tax system.

Mr. Murdich, Mr. Gates III, Mr. Buffett and other billionaires would do well to visit the streets of the barrios in Los Angeles and other cities, to chat with illegals on street corners and visit their families. This will never happen because they could never handle the truth. They're only good for making lofty speeches about immigration and the American dream.


13 posted on 02/08/2005 5:10:59 PM PST by Hostage
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Immigrants like Murdoch shouldn't get a say in the composition of the nation until they pass a probationary period, which should end the day after they die. Murdoch is the last individual who ought to give such advice, he is an internationalist fat cat with absolutely no loyalty to any nation or thing and who sees people and nations as just colonies to be exploited by him and his supranational business buddies.


16 posted on 02/08/2005 7:40:13 PM PST by jordan8
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