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Reports: McNabb Sick During Crucial Part Of Super Bowl
AP ^ | February 8, 2005

Posted on 02/08/2005 11:49:37 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

PHILADELPHIA -- Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was so ill in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl that a teammate had to call a play in the huddle, center Hank Fraley said.

"He fought to the end," Fraley told Comcast SportsNet on Monday. "He gave it his all. He was almost puking in the huddle. One play had to be called by (wideout) Freddie Mitchell because Donovan was mumbling because he was almost puking."

Offensive lineman Jon Runyan also echoed Fraley's comments in the same interview aired on two local radio stations on Tuesday after the Comcast report.

McNabb was shaky in Philadelphia's 24-21 loss to the England Patriots on Sunday, throwing for 357 yards and three touchdowns, was also getting picked off three times.

McNabb misfired on several passes early, held the ball too long in other instances and made several poor decisions. One of the best scramblers in the NFL, McNabb had zero yards rushing on just one carry and was sacked four times.

An Eagles spokesman did not immediately return a phone call Tuesday.


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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
"BULL$#!@T, if you are well enough to play then you are not sick enough to use it as an excuse for throwing three picks and costing your team the Super Bowl."

I don't recall McNabb using it as an excuse.
161 posted on 02/08/2005 12:56:11 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: evets

First - All the reports describe statements by offensive linemen, not McNabb. So he's not making excuses.

Second - Did you see the TD pass to Westbrook? The TD pass to L.J. Smith? How many other NFL QBs could make those throws?

Third - The second stringer was Koy Detmer. I'll take a sick McNabb over a healthy Koy any day so give up on the "he should have pulled himself" line.

Last - As an Eagles fan, I have watched and read McNabb's public comments over the past five years. He has only said exactly the right thing every single time. He is an admirable man and has handled unwarranted abuse with great restraint.

Hey, I'm a big Limbaugh fan. I also think his McNabb comments were taken out of context and twisted to fit the left's name calling agenda. Reasonable minds can differ as to McNabb's football ability (I happen to think he is excellent). There is no doubt, however, that McNabb is a complete gentleman and professional. We should admire his restraint, his public behavior and his exemplary personal life, not trash him.


162 posted on 02/08/2005 12:56:43 PM PST by Expressway
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To: evets

163 posted on 02/08/2005 12:56:49 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave Barry)
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To: West Coast Conservative

excuses excuses


164 posted on 02/08/2005 12:57:13 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Look! Jimmy Carter! History's greatest monster!)
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To: expatpat
Excess nervous energy will exhaust you faster than anything. Maybe he had been feeling just too much pressure.

Can't say why he was like that, but I noted it at the time. I also noted that there were other players sucking wind, but MacNabb was actually wobbling. Could well have been the stress combined with the letdown.

No way could they have done a hurry-up offense without replacing the offense wholesale. They were clearly having to use the time to get their breath back.

165 posted on 02/08/2005 12:58:54 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: barbiebush
That's no small task against arguably the best defensive team ever. (Personally I do not agree they are)

THAT was the best defensive team?

Oy Vey!

166 posted on 02/08/2005 12:59:05 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave Barry)
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To: Callahan
"The Rush-inspired hatred of McNabb on FR is ridiculous--like they have to defend Limbaugh just because. He was a jackass for needlessly injecting race into the debate. I'll say it a thousand times: McNabb was used as media darling by the NFL because he was a flashy player with a spotless off-the-field record and a nice personality."

I agree with all this, but I still think Rush had a bit of a point that the media are softer on black QB's and black coaches than on whites. Here in Seattle, the media were all over Holmgren for having several mediocre years, but they were much softer on the Sonics' Nate McMillan, whose teams - until this year - showed similar mediocrity and lack of progress.
167 posted on 02/08/2005 1:00:23 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Alberta's Child

"And who can forget the classic 1982 AFC playoff game between San Diego and Miami, in which Chargers tight end Kellen Winslow made 13 catches in the overtime win (one of the greates NFL games ever played) despite exhaustion and dehydration? He also blocked an attempted field goal at the end of regulation that would have won the game for the Dolphins."

I'd venture to say that there aren't too many people in this forum who weren't in diapers in '82. But it was a great game!


168 posted on 02/08/2005 1:00:29 PM PST by old school
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To: Getsmart64
He is usually pretty good when he is playing sorry teams.....:)

But get him in the big dance and he has two left feet.

169 posted on 02/08/2005 1:00:59 PM PST by Recon by Fire
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To: El Gran Salseron

"The thing about Tampa Bay occurred during the summertime of 2004 and was all over the sports news outlets."

Well...that explains it...I was not in the position to be able to watch the various sports news outlets over the last summer...but I'll take your word for it....


170 posted on 02/08/2005 1:03:21 PM PST by Getsmart64 (..)
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To: Phantom Lord

You are right.....They are making EXCUSES for McNabb.

He did have an off day, but then again, he has been prone to a few off days...

Chris Collingsworth, "If Philadelphia is going to win, it will be by the passing of McNabb" (a media type PROVES what Rush said...the media will give McNabb all the credit if they win).

The lost, by his interceptions, and horrible control of the clock in the last two minutes.


171 posted on 02/08/2005 1:04:02 PM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Expressway

.........WARNING: choking hazard
172 posted on 02/08/2005 1:04:28 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: MTD

Man, after Rush made his comments about McNabb, Philadelphia has lost about 3 games, not counting the last two regular season ones this year where they didn't try. His comments seem to have put fire in McNabb's heart.


173 posted on 02/08/2005 1:04:36 PM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: F16Fighter
Ain't NO way Joe Montana or Favre with precious moments ticking off the clock are lackadaisically calling a play in the huddle, or attempting to complete a 2-yarder in the middle of the field. They're instinctively going No-Huddle.

Not if they've got a concussion, particularly a bad one. Your head spins, its difficult to concentrate, and you feel like puking. I'm sure McNabb was hoping his head would clear, and it just didn't. If you want to blame him for anything, blame him for not taking himself out of the game.

Actually, one of his teammates should have said something to Reid. But maybe they thought that, concussed or not, McNabb gave them their best chance to win.

174 posted on 02/08/2005 1:05:09 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: Phantom Lord
I'm a total Patriots fan, being from MA and all, and I followed the whole story about McNabb and Rush; having said that, and being glad the Pats won, I really do feel bad for McNabb. He did seem off his game for sure, and when you feel sick and you're a pro. you want to brush it aside and play the game. If he mentioned he was feeling ill, can u imagine the response he would have gotten from the media. I just feel bad for him.
175 posted on 02/08/2005 1:05:21 PM PST by ladiesview61
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To: West Coast Conservative
Bad luck if it happened that way because of illness, but that happens. You either play through that pain, or get benched. It's just the way team sports works. Easy for me to say, I know.

Give McNabb credit for hanging in there. Whether or not it was the right thing to do, I don't know. He probably wanted to be in there to help his team and not let them down, but if he was not up to par in the big game, one must weigh that against taking a seat and letting the sub have a try.

That said, New England just won the game. They do what it takes to win (within the rules, of course) and that is what makes champions. Brady and the Pats had the experience going into the game, and it showed. They stuck with their game and did what they had to do.

So New England has the Lombardi Trophy and the World Series Trophy to parade around. Great. But don't let it go to your heads. You're still stuck with sKerry and Tiddy, and Malarkey (Markey). Bunch of 'Rats they are...

176 posted on 02/08/2005 1:06:15 PM PST by chimera
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To: Expressway

You nailed it - all of your points are right on! Also give the Pats kudos for having the stamina and the conditioning to not run out of gas at the end of the game (even with some players going both ways) AND for having the ability to put enough of a hurting on enough of the Eagles players that they did appear to have nothing left in the tank at the end. Belichik and team found a way to win. Again.


177 posted on 02/08/2005 1:06:26 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Dashing Dasher

It was the soup, the Chunky soup!


178 posted on 02/08/2005 1:06:46 PM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: ThreeYearLurker

Ewwwwwwww!

That's dis-gust-ing!


179 posted on 02/08/2005 1:08:40 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave Barry)
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To: Expressway
Hey, I'm a big Limbaugh fan. I also think his McNabb comments were taken out of context and twisted to fit the left's name calling agenda. Reasonable minds can differ as to McNabb's football ability (I happen to think he is excellent). There is no doubt, however, that McNabb is a complete gentleman and professional. We should admire his restraint, his public behavior and his exemplary personal life, not trash him.

Agree. Bottom line, however, the Pats are/were a better team & would win again if played next week.

180 posted on 02/08/2005 1:08:51 PM PST by Digger
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