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"But What Is 'Orientation'?" asked Alice
christian-news-in-maine ^ | Feb. 5, 2005 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:06:12 PM PST by Lindykim

"But I'm not a serpent, I tell you!" said Alice......."Well! What are you?" said the Pigeon, "I can see you're trying to invent something!" ----Advice From A Caterpillar

Noah Webster defined 'orient' and its' derivative 'orientation' thusly:

"orient: the east; East Asia; to cause to face the east; to set as a map; to adjust to a particular situation.

"orientation: oriented; recognition of and adaptation to a situation or environment."

Primarily then, orientation speaks to direction and/or adjusting or adapting to a situation or environment. Implicit in this definition is 'choice,' as one must make a decision as to whether one will choose to adjust and/or adapt or choose not to do either thing. And finally, it speaks of free will, because where there is 'choice' there is always free will.

We are humankind and we have but two genders, male and female. History tells us that without exception, we have always been this way. Yet now, there are those amongst our kind who claim to be 'different' from us. They claim to be the result of something called 'orientation'. They are like us in every biological and physiological respect. Their genitalia are either male or female and they come in every known skin color, body type, hair color, and eye color; yet they insist they are 'something else'...... this strange thing they refer to as 'orientation'.

"Curiouser and curiouser!" cried Alice

So what is this mysterious 'orientation'? We have eliminated skin, hair, body type, and eye coloration along with genital differences, so that leaves us with one other thing.....'behavior.' Sexual behavior, to be exact. They engage in sexual behavior that deviates from what is normal for our kind and they've 'adjusted and/or adapted' to it. Now in this way, by understanding it as a 'behavior' we can finally make sense out of this thing they call 'orientation' although we must suspend belief in all that is normal and natural in order to accept it as true.

But they require yet further suspension of belief in truth and reality. This time, they demand that we believe they have no 'choice' in whether they adapt or adjust to this thing they call 'orientation.' That in fact, their 'adaptions and/or adjustments' are innately caused, like hair, skin, and eye color. Simply put, they adjust and adapt on the one hand, but on the other hand they have no free will to do so or not to do so; they would have us believe they have no choice whatsoever over the entire affair. They are they claim, literally forced to adjust and adapt to this odd sexual behavior. In other words, they have an 'innately' caused 'inabiity' to not make choices that would lead them to not engage in aberrant sexual behavior. And that is what they would have us believe 'orientation' is. Does this make sense? No it doesn't. It's nonsensical. It sounds like something the Mad Hatter would say. It's delusional wishful thinking, and it's birthed a panoply of corrupted reasoning as its rationale.

"What is his sorrow?' she asked the Gryphon.....the Gryphon responded, "It's all his fancy, that: he hasn't got no sorrow, you know." ---The Mock Turtle's Story

Just as the Mock Turtle pretended to feel a sorrow he did not have, there are males and females among us who are pretending to be something which they are not: 'oriented' beings. And based upon this fairytale, we're expected to graciously endow these 'oriented' beings with civil rights and with marriage.

OK, but does every 'being' who steps forward and claims to have an 'orientation' automatically become a candidate for 'civil rights'? To find out, I posted the definition of a 'human pup' (taken from a 'gay pup and trainer' website: a human pup is a person who possesses or expresses the traits and characteristics of a dog) in a strongly 'pro-gay' discuss forum where a heated debate over 'gay marriage' rights was underway. I asked if whether "human pups" should also have the right to marry. Although this was a logical question, they vehemently disagreed. One of them explosively responded:

(direct quote) "What the f___ is the POINT of your post? If your point is that there are people out there with kinky or unusual notions of sex then you are simply stating the OBVIOUS. That is the nature of the Human condition. What that has to do with Gay people marrying is beyond me." (end of direct quote) It should be noted that the respondant is a male being who is also a 'female' being and refers to him/herself as a "queen and goddess" among other things.

So we are to infer from this male oriented 'queen' being that not all 'orientations' are equal and deserving of rights? But why not? And who says so? The Mad Hatter? Either 'orientations' are something true and should be equally endowed with rights or they are false and should not be endowed with rights. And if they are true, then 'fully consenting' puppy oriented beings, bear oriented beings, vampire oriented beings, necrophilia oriented beings, and pedophilia and pederast oriented beings should not be discriminated against and denied their civil rights......whatever those might entail, and one shudders to contemplate them.

So exactly what then, is 'orientation'? Augustine accurately defined it. He said it begins in the mind as an impulse which then moves to the senses for approval. The consequences are considered, the will makes a decision to act, and the mind rationalizes the behavior. So in reality, we are being required to legitimize behavior born of dark sexual impulses and to reward all 'beings' who engage in those behaviors with 'civil rights.'

Under the aegis of political correctness, our nation has been eradicating social stigmas in order that the 'dark impulses' of those who claim to have an 'orientation' can be given free rein so as to act upon them. But in legitimizing this imaginary thing called 'orientation,' it has had the effect of opening Pandoras' Box. And out of it are rushing the maddened sons of destruction......deceit, disrespect for life, plagues of sexually transmitted diseases, dementia, lewdness, paranoia, chaos, anarchy, and tyannical 'hate crime' laws.

In the final analysis, this thing called 'orientation' is a deceptive facade behind which lurks a political agenda motivated by lust for power, control, and the destruction of America's existing social order so that another order may be created.

Multiculturalism is a neo-Marxist theory, and it's the engine driving our social order to ruin. And it's from multiculturalism that political correctness and the insanity producing notion of 'orientation' arose. Multiculturalism has the disasterous consequence of dividing and categorizing mankind into classes by 'orientation', gender, economic status, religious belief, and ethnicity. Each of these classes are then locked in constant warfare over rights.

Multiculturalism has no legitimate business being in a system of government wherein "all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights....." and where as a result, all are equal and not unequal before the law and all have equal, and not unequal Constitutional rights.

If we wish to remain free and equal people under our Constitution and before our law, we must rid our Constitutional Republic of neo-Marxist notions. And we must, for the sake of clarity, truth, and rational discourse likewise purge our language of purposely corrupted 'politically correct' language with its' meaningless and cofusion causing terms like 'orientation.'

"Political language.....is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind." -----George Orwell

"Once," said the Mock Turtle with a deep sigh, "I was a real turtle." To which I can imagine the common sense Alice asking in response, "But if you're not a real turtle, then what are you?" And the turtle would sigh and say, "An orientation."

Quotes from "Alice's Adventures In Wonderland" and "Orwell: Politics And The English Language"


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: civilrights; culturewars; discrimination; diversity; homosexualagenda; multiculturalism; neomarxism; orientation; pc; politicalcorrectness; tolerance
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1 posted on 02/07/2005 3:06:12 PM PST by Lindykim
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To: EdReform; ItsOurTimeNow; little jeremiah; scripter

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2 posted on 02/07/2005 3:07:23 PM PST by Lindykim
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Actually, I am most disturbed that the author is employing the current use of the word "gender" when the appropriate word is "sex." There are but two sexes: male and female. "Gender" should be reserved for language use (e.g. French, where La is feminine gender, Le is masculine gender)

As H.W. Fowler wrote in his "Modern English Usage":

"gender...is a grammatical term only. To talk of persons...of the masculine or feminine g[ender], meaning of the male or female sex, is either a jocularity (permissible or not according to context) or a blunder."

Even the Microsoft dictionary admits that other uses are non-standard.
4 posted on 02/07/2005 3:24:41 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Lindykim

Lewis Carrol was a mathematician and had quantum wormholes in mind in 'Alice Through the Looking Glass.'


5 posted on 02/07/2005 3:26:17 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Chris_GT

snip.....is curiouser a word?


No. But in Mad Hatter Ville, where 'is' has multiple meanings, 'curiouser' can also be a valid word.


6 posted on 02/07/2005 3:30:14 PM PST by Lindykim
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To: RightWhale

He also had in mind the devastating effects of widespread moral insanity.


7 posted on 02/07/2005 3:33:09 PM PST by Lindykim
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To: Lindykim

"...'curiouser' can also be a valid word."

And, it can mean just what you choose it to mean - neither more nor less.


8 posted on 02/07/2005 4:39:33 PM PST by beelzepug (Parking For Witches Only--All Others Will Be Toad.)
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To: Lindykim
Two points vanity credit for abjuring the barbaric orientate.
9 posted on 02/07/2005 4:45:17 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K

Bump & Ping


10 posted on 02/07/2005 7:45:52 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: ArGee; lentulusgracchus; Clint N. Suhks; Grampa Dave; SweetCaroline; nicmarlo

Ping


11 posted on 02/07/2005 7:47:49 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: sittnick
As H.W. Fowler wrote in his "Modern English Usage":

"gender...is a grammatical term only. To talk of persons...of the masculine or feminine g[ender], meaning of the male or female sex, is either a jocularity (permissible or not according to context) or a blunder."


What edition would that have been? See sex and gender

OTOH, see Humpty Dumpty. "When I use a word, it means exactly what I want it to mean—nothing more and nothing less."
12 posted on 02/07/2005 7:48:37 PM PST by mista science
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To: EdReform

BTTT


13 posted on 02/07/2005 8:22:47 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Be still and rest in the Lord; wait for Him and lean yourself upon him... Psalm 37:7)
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To: Lindykim; EdReform; ArGee; little jeremiah; GOPcapitalist; William Terrell; scripter; ...
Multiculturalism is a neo-Marxist theory, and it's the engine driving our social order to ruin. And it's from multiculturalism that political correctness and the insanity producing notion of 'orientation' arose. Multiculturalism has the disasterous consequence of dividing and categorizing mankind into classes by 'orientation', gender, economic status, religious belief, and ethnicity. Each of these classes are then locked in constant warfare over rights.

Bingo. We have a winner.

At this moment, Republicans have the power to pull the plug on this engine of destruction.

DEFUND THE LEFT!!

14 posted on 02/07/2005 10:32:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

snip...At this moment, Republicans have the power to pull the plug on this engine of destruction


I'd dearly love to see that happen. But it would entail the divestiture of status and power from 'special rights' groups. And I can't see that happening without a lot of ugliness. And with regards to homosexuals, they would need to accept that they aren't 'oriented beings' but simply males and females who have a same-sex attraction disorder.


We need a massive re-education effort, imo.


15 posted on 02/08/2005 3:16:54 AM PST by Lindykim
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To: mista science
What edition would that have been? See sex and gender

Both the first and second editions. The third edition is a complete rewrite of the entire book, and is not Fowler's work at all.
16 posted on 02/08/2005 5:05:31 AM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Thanks for posting this Lindykim! Hey scripter, this one's a keeper. If you want on/off the ping list see my profile page.

17 posted on 02/08/2005 9:50:15 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: All

bttt


18 posted on 02/08/2005 11:56:04 AM PST by Lindykim
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To: Lindykim

BUMP!


19 posted on 02/08/2005 3:15:28 PM PST by two134711
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To: two134711

bump!


20 posted on 02/08/2005 3:16:40 PM PST by Lindykim
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