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Haven't seen his movie. Is Clinton Eastwood pushing assisted suicide?
million dollar/amazon ^ | feb 5 05 | churchillbuff

Posted on 02/05/2005 7:10:28 PM PST by churchillbuff

I haven't seen "Million Dollar Baby," but I've heard liberals on radio say it's great - but they can't share the ending - - but it has something to do with politically "important" issues - - - then there was a hint about assisted suicide.

Now, if liberals love it (and the Oscar nominators like it) and it really does involve assisted suicide, then I would assume it's PRO-assisted suicide. AM I RIGHT? If so, that's a big disappointment - - -


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: eastwood; ididntseeitbut; milliondollarbaby; movies; suicide
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1 posted on 02/05/2005 7:10:28 PM PST by churchillbuff
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Clint's making a movie. When John Huston made "The Maltese Falcon," he didn't mean you should go out and murder people and steal priceless artifacts.


2 posted on 02/05/2005 7:12:34 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: JennysCool

So is that a yes?


3 posted on 02/05/2005 7:13:15 PM PST by churchillbuff
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Yes, it is an agenda-driven movie, pushing assisted suicide. Hugh Hewitt's exposed that, as has Michael Medved. The libs are trying to keep it a secret so that SOMEONE will go see it, because otherwise any sane person would not bother. I mean, so what if the acting is terrific and the costumes??? SO WHAT? Is what I say.


4 posted on 02/05/2005 7:13:16 PM PST by bboop
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I don't want to start anything here but like the guy on FOX, I can't remember his name, we both loved the movie. I for one knowing a little bit about Clint, don't think he is pushing anything but a story......I don't think we should start seeing things that are not there. It was a great movie and don't think we should start seeing conspiracy theories everywhere we look.....


5 posted on 02/05/2005 7:13:28 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: JennysCool

Ah, the voice of reason....Of course you will now be flamed, take cover.


6 posted on 02/05/2005 7:14:08 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: JennysCool

I can't say too much bad about Eastwood after what he said about Moore. You know he said, "If Michael Moore comes to my house with a camera, I'll F'in kill him".


7 posted on 02/05/2005 7:14:12 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: bboop

well I'm very sane and I saw the movie and have no problems with it.....I don't agree with assisted suicide but if I let everything in life I didn't agree with get in my way, I'd have to stay at home.......


8 posted on 02/05/2005 7:16:26 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: churchillbuff

It's a good flick. There is no agenda. There is an assisted suicide at the end.


9 posted on 02/05/2005 7:16:41 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: JennysCool
When John Huston made "The Maltese Falcon," he didn't mean you should go out and murder people """"

Right, but if you think that message movies - when well done - can't influence people's thoughts and behavior, you're simple, or willfully naive.

10 posted on 02/05/2005 7:16:45 PM PST by churchillbuff
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It's a story. You can agree or disagree, that's what makes it so good.


11 posted on 02/05/2005 7:17:20 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: Jay777

Yes, I liked Clint's reply to MM. Regardless of that, the movie is pro-assisted suicide. That is THE big cause these days -- see, Terry Sciavo -- and I will not support him in this. And I think that they are keeping it secret stinks -- because I think they are trying to hide something they know is offensive to many.


12 posted on 02/05/2005 7:17:57 PM PST by bboop
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To: Non-Sequitur
There is an assisted suicide at the end.""""

Why do I think this "assisted suicide" must have been sympathetically portrayed - - - ??? Uh, because Hollywood liberals love the movie? No, there couldn't be any connection. They'd surely love it just as much if it made a message against assisted suicide. Surely.

13 posted on 02/05/2005 7:18:23 PM PST by churchillbuff
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Damn straight, the government should ban this movie this very instant to prevent people from seeing it. That is the only way to protect us all.

/ sarcasm

14 posted on 02/05/2005 7:21:10 PM PST by new cruelty
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Rush has expressed disgust for the movie because of its seeming support for terminating people who so desire. The main character is injured in an accident and doesn't want to live with her permanent state of disability. So, the answer to your question is yes.


15 posted on 02/05/2005 7:21:11 PM PST by KCrouch
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To: Hildy
It's a story. You can agree or disagree"""

Well, if it's pro-assisted suicide, I most certainly CAN disagree. If they made a sympathetic film of the "Protocals of Zion" or "Mein KAmpf", or a sympathetic portrayal of Stalin, would you sound so generous? The fact that something is put on film -- even in the form of a story -- doesn't exempt it from criticism, especially if the message is a morally evil one.

16 posted on 02/05/2005 7:21:16 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: bboop

Well, I haven't seen the movie. But in Schiavo's case, no one knows her wishes. That makes a big difference.


17 posted on 02/05/2005 7:21:26 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: Hildy
I'm getting real tired of Hollyweird trying to make me think. Aren't they supposed to be about entertainment ? Enough from these pinheads who make obscene amounts of money for doing very little work trying to tell me how to think.
18 posted on 02/05/2005 7:21:27 PM PST by John Lenin (Don't let them fool you)
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Yup. Clint's okay.

I get a little cranky with FReepers who think a filmmaker can't explore an issue or a topic they might not agree with without being "branded." That's the kind of thing the Libs do with Mel Gibson, for one handy example.


19 posted on 02/05/2005 7:22:59 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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Roman Catholics who have seen the movie: How do you square the use of the respirator with paragraph 2278 of the Catechism, 2nd edition which reads:

"2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment.Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected."


20 posted on 02/05/2005 7:24:48 PM PST by hc87
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