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DESTROYED EMBRYO DEEMED HUMAN (Chicago, IL Court Ruling)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 2.5.05 | Steve Patterson

Posted on 02/05/2005 7:55:34 AM PST by gopwinsin04

A frozen embryo destroyed in a Chicago fertility clinic was a human being whose parents are entitled to file a wrongful death lawsuit, a Cook County judge rules Friday.

Attorneys on both sides of the abortion issue said it was the first such ruling they have heard of as the country debates whether stem cells derived from embryos can be used in research and medicine.

Alison Miller and Todd Parrish hoped to conceive a child with help from the Center of Human Reproduction, but the one fertilized egg the couple created was thrown out in error by a clinic worker.

Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being..whether or not it is impanted in its mother's womb' and the couple is entitled to seek the same compensation awarded to other parents whose children are killed. 'Philisophers and theologians may debate,' he wrote, but there is no doubt in the mind of the Illinois legislature when life begins. It begins at conception.'

Coleen Connell, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Chicago, said she expected the ruling would be overturned on appeal.

James Costello, who represented the couple said the clinic workers negligence was now at issue goven the ruling. 'The embryo had a unique set of DNA not unlike a child and was just thrown out like a piece of garbage,' he said.

Pro Life Action Leage director Joe Scheidler praised the ruling. 'That is scientifically correct. Life begins at fertilization, not implantation.'

Northwestern Law Professor Dorothy Roberts warned that the ruling may have 'scary' and 'dangerous' implications for the law.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: abortion; embryo; fetalrights; frozenembryo; ivf; prolife; roevwade; ussc
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To: gopwinsin04

Absadamnlutely!


41 posted on 02/05/2005 2:42:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: gopwinsin04; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
This should be BREAKING NEWS.. this may be the case to go ALL THE WAY !!!

Passing it on..

42 posted on 02/05/2005 3:03:43 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: NYer

From the persepctive of most Jews destruction of an embryo wouldn’t be fall under prohibitions relating to abortion. Since an in-vitro embryo cannot develop or survive without implantation into the mother, it doesn’t enjoy the protections of a potential human.


43 posted on 02/05/2005 3:29:21 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: NYer
Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being... whether or not it is implanted in its mother's womb

Wow, this just blows my mind.

Wonderful news!!!

44 posted on 02/05/2005 3:54:55 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: cpforlife.org

Post 44 is for you, too.


45 posted on 02/05/2005 3:55:57 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Calpernia

Is this the first time a court has done this??

Between this and the unborn child protection act, the clear schizophrenia about the humanity of the fetus with respect to the law only grows louder and louder.

-- Joe


46 posted on 02/05/2005 3:57:56 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: NYer

Glory hallelujah! Thanks for the ping!


47 posted on 02/05/2005 4:02:57 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Thanks Victoria!

LOL-- Now if only Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II could sit down the six stooges on SCOTUS who embrace Roe and read them the riot act! Hopefully this Judge will be tapped by President Bush.

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In a 1-14-05 article from Susan Wills, Esq., associate director for education, Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities, U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops:

And no one seriously suggests that Roe be protected because of its legal merit. Since 1973, six Supreme Court justices and scores of legal articles have criticized Roe and Doe for inventing a right to abortion not found in the Constitution and for usurping the right of states and the people to fashion laws that reflect their views on abortion. As a distinguished law professor, Michael S. Paulsen, put it: “Roe is an embarrassment—perhaps the worst work-product the Court has ever produced. … Roe’s reasoning is utterly laughable, a running joke in constitutional law circles.”

http://www.nccbuscc.org/prolife/publicat/lifeissues/011405.htm

48 posted on 02/05/2005 4:15:03 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org; anonymous_user; TenthAmendmentChampion; MHGinTN; Coleus; Victoria Delsoul; ...
Finally, something good to come out of Cook County, IL.

It's about time!

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

49 posted on 02/05/2005 4:20:59 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: anonymous_user

=== This one passed the all-important "Planned and Wanted" test. It's never been about the fetus.


Hear hear.

Though you might reconsider your tagline in light of the fact abortion, indeed, is a GOP policy.


50 posted on 02/05/2005 4:36:51 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: drt1

=== If, on the other hand, they are committed Pro-Life people


How can you even surmise such a thing for a second about folks who would patronize a fertility clinic ... as if "God's will" were something to be overcome by technology.


51 posted on 02/05/2005 4:38:11 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: gobucks

=== There is a small problem here; the Talmud is one of the reference documents that anchors American Jurisprudence.


God help us.



=== And the Talmud states categorically that a human life is not human at conception, nor for many days thereafter.


So the Talmud trumps science somehow?

Just another indication that the "Judeo-Christian" movement espoused by so many useful Idiot evangilicals is heinous.


52 posted on 02/05/2005 4:39:59 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5; greasepaint; drt1; Calpernia; Coleus; Homer_J_Simpson; Lazamataz; gopwinsin04; ...
Gleicher says he was "extremely sorry" for "this very obvious error" caused by a "communication mix-up," finishing with an "offer of a free [in vitro fertilization] cycle as a gesture of goodwill on our part."

For some reason, I'm picturing Dr. Nick Riviera right about now.

(Prolonged eye roll.)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

53 posted on 02/05/2005 4:54:23 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I almost became a surrogate mother a few years ago for one of my clients. If my mother didn't threaten to disown me, I would have done it.


54 posted on 02/05/2005 4:56:51 PM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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To: cyborg
Was she married, at the time?
55 posted on 02/05/2005 5:08:07 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

She is married now. At the time she and her boyfriend weren't but she was in a real hurry and desperate. I felt sorry for her.


56 posted on 02/05/2005 5:10:41 PM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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To: cyborg
Sounds like an extremely difficult situation.

At least she had some intelligent, thoughtful people looking out for her best interests.

:0)

57 posted on 02/05/2005 5:20:35 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I think she is going to adopt. Whatever happens to the eggs, only God knows.


58 posted on 02/05/2005 5:28:59 PM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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To: gopwinsin04
"Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being..whether or not it is impanted in its mother's womb' and the couple is entitled to seek the same compensation awarded to other parents whose children are killed. 'Philisophers and theologians may debate,' he wrote, but there is no doubt in the mind of the Illinois legislature when life begins. It begins at conception.'

It is really quite amazing. Judge Lawrence has to be one in a million. It would be a good idea to send him some letters and phone calls of support.

59 posted on 02/05/2005 5:34:48 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: TAdams8591

Agreed. That judge is a keeper..


60 posted on 02/05/2005 5:35:39 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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