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Does Your Vehicle Have An ' Event Data Recorder' On Board?
KOTV News (Tulsa) ^ | Feb. 4, 2005 | Lori Fullbright

Posted on 02/04/2005 7:31:09 PM PST by Rennes Templar

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To: RetroWarrior

I'll rant when, and where necessary, thank you.


41 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:04 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim

Your welcome.


42 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:32 PM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: Rennes Templar
"We're no longer a country that's as free as it once was. We're more of a police state every day."

Words from someone with something to hide.

43 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:36 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: southronbtgoG

Maybe all of 'em didn't go to public school!


44 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:47 PM PST by WKB (Is it weird here, or is it just me?)
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To: Rennes Templar

Maybe George Jones knew something before we all did. They don't have them on Lawn Mowers yet, do they?


45 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:55 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: Jagman

yes, but you can't just unplug the thing. either the car will not run, or the airbag lights will be permanently lit, or some sensor will go nuts, etc.


46 posted on 02/04/2005 7:55:56 PM PST by oceanview
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Now if you get a speeding ticket or a ticket for running a light and you were not speeding or did stop, can you use that data for your defense?


47 posted on 02/04/2005 7:56:16 PM PST by Pylon (R)
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To: K4Harty
I say take a hammer to it since you own it with the car.

And the prosecutor or plaintiff's attorney will argue to the jury that you planned to drive in a reckless manner and were trying to cover up. If you did decided to take the stand, they would argue that your testimony is not credible, because you wanted to hide the true, objective evidence which would be in the courtroom but for your actions.

48 posted on 02/04/2005 7:57:07 PM PST by PAR35
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To: mo
I'm no legal eagle, but I'd say it's along the lines of it being an "objective witness". You didn't commit the information to a secondary party yourself as if you were describing it to someone else in a bar. (BTW, that is something for the legal eagles -- why can your diary be admitted as a matter of course as evidence against you?)
49 posted on 02/04/2005 7:57:39 PM PST by jiggyboy
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To: Rennes Templar

Is there a list of years and cars that the black boxes installed in them? Where are the boxes located and how do you disable them?


50 posted on 02/04/2005 7:58:17 PM PST by garyhope
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To: K4Harty
"I say take a hammer to it since you own it with the car. Until they pass a law stating that it's Govt. Property then....IMO of course."

Put the hammer away. You don't need that much misuse of energy. Get some more delicate tools. Gently pry the cover off and unsolder the offending wire and cut the soldered section off where the exposed wire ends. Use a solder sucker or braid to collect what is left. Put cover back on and go your merry way down those empty highways.

OH, I FORGOT- disconnect the + terminal from your battery and put a baggie over it. Everything must be done in a ground plane.

51 posted on 02/04/2005 7:58:18 PM PST by BobS
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To: oceanview
That's right, and the latest trend in automotive electronics is a shift away from "add a feature, add a box" strategies toward electronics integration (think Boeing 777). When this happens, you won't even be able to find the ECUs that are recording everything. Buy a pre-1990's vehicle if you tend to drive drunk.
52 posted on 02/04/2005 7:59:34 PM PST by Jagman (so that's it then, we're all dead...)
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To: oceanview

Actually, I do have some knowledge of the computer end of this (more than the legalities as in my earlier post). It's really only a ten-minute job to hook up the easily-availble cable to the computer and copy the information from your car to whatever they want to store it in.


53 posted on 02/04/2005 7:59:42 PM PST by jiggyboy
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To: garyhope

its all of them now - all modern cars have them.


54 posted on 02/04/2005 7:59:47 PM PST by oceanview
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To: BobS
I love the stuff you "B" personality's come with sometimes. My first reaction was the hammer, but i like your idea better.
55 posted on 02/04/2005 8:00:09 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: hole_n_one

I have terrible gallows humour.

But your post just made me laugh.


56 posted on 02/04/2005 8:01:33 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: jiggyboy

that's true, so you can imagine the police having these devices in the future and doing a data download as a normal part of any traffic accident. and memory is so cheap now, that's its not just the past few seconds it will store, it could be your entire driving record for the past week or month.


57 posted on 02/04/2005 8:03:26 PM PST by oceanview
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To: garyhope

See link at end of article.


58 posted on 02/04/2005 8:04:30 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: garyhope

Think this way,,,A black box records , that all it does..It does not make the vehicle run...After that is something else..............Southron And Proud Of It...............


59 posted on 02/04/2005 8:05:06 PM PST by southronbtgoG (If I knew everything , I'd be ,,,well I don't come close)
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To: garyhope

Think this way,,,A black box records , that all it does..It does not make the vehicle run...After that is something else..............Southron And Proud Of It...............


60 posted on 02/04/2005 8:05:22 PM PST by southronbtgoG (If I knew everything , I'd be ,,,well I don't come close)
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