Posted on 02/03/2005 7:31:48 PM PST by TapTheSource
Russia, China to Hold Security Talks
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, Feb. 2, 2005
MOSCOW -- Russia and China will hold regular security consultations, President Vladimir Putin and a visiting Chinese official announced Wednesday, moving to further strengthen close military cooperation between the two Cold War-era adversaries.
China's State Councilor Tang Jiaxuan told Putin that Beijing does not have such a consultation mechanism with any other country. He called Russia China's "main partner for strategic cooperation." "This is the first time ever that China is establishing a mechanism of national security consultations with another country," said Tang, who said he had discussed details of the initiative with Russian Security Council secretary Igor Ivanov earlier in the day.
"We decided to establish such a mechanism with Russia because we have close positions regarding the international situation, key international and regional issues, as well as issues related to maintaining peace and helping global development," Tang said. "We have common strategic interests related to those issues."
Putin hailed an increasingly close cooperation between the former Communist rivals, saying that "relations in the political, economic and security sphere and in the field of military cooperation have been developing intensively."
Putin said that Moscow is looking forward to a visit by President Hu Jintao set for May and a joint Russian-Chinese military exercise set for later this year.
The maneuvers, set to begin in August, were seen by many observers as Russia's response to the cooling of relations with the United States and other Western nations, most recently over the presidential election in Ukraine.
Gen. Vladimir Mikhailov, Russia's air force chief, said last month that Tu-22M and Tu-95 bombers will take part in the exercises, hoping to encourage China's interest in buying them.
China's air force has some older Soviet-designed bombers, but they have far lower capability than the Tu-22Ms and Tu-95s, which are capable of hitting distant targets with long-haul conventional or nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
After decades of rivalry, Moscow and Beijing have developed what they call a strategic partnership since the 1991 Soviet collapse, pledging their adherence to a "multipolar world," a term that refers to their opposition to a perceived U.S. domination in global affairs.
China has purchased billions of dollars worth of fighters, missiles, submarines and destroyers, becoming the No. 1 customer for struggling Russian defense industries.
2005 The Associated Press
(From the article)
"He called Russia China's "main partner for strategic cooperation." "This is the first time ever that China is establishing a mechanism of national security consultations with another country," said Tang..."We decided to establish such a mechanism with Russia because we have close positions regarding the international situation, key international and regional issues, as well as issues related to maintaining peace and helping global development".
Eurasian Alliance ping!!!
They richly deserve one another. "Birds of feather..."
Thanks. We need to strengthen our military and alliance with both Japan, Taiwan, Australia, and South Korea (if that country is willing) to counter this. A free Iran, Iraq, and Afganistan would also be a mejor step in helping to contain this Eurasian Alliance.
"We need to strengthen our military and alliance with both Japan, Taiwan, Australia, and South Korea (if that country is willing) to counter this."
This would be good. I would just add that we should cut off all aid and trade with this two countries. Why feed the dragon that plans to one day eat you?
I agree. Cut off aid to Russia and withdraw the free trade with China.
This must be the most cynical of all diplomacy because the Russians and the Chinese have hated each other for many centuries, and they don't trust each other for a minute now. They couldn't even get along when it was the Soviet Union and Red China, communist brother countries.:)
We see arguments from the Russian propaganda contingent regarding Russia's economic needs. ...no problem with those arguments. It would be great to see Russia build trade relations with businesses in some of the more benevolent countries. And arranging trade with private enterprises around the world can take much time.
But we are concerned about Russia's military alliances and exchanges of war materiel.
"It would be great to see Russia build trade relations with businesses in some of the more benevolent countries."
They can't because they are focused on nurturing and directing their traditional allies, which are traditional enemies of the West. Tells you a lot about "Russia." Even Red China, maker of all the slave-made goods we practically have no option but to buy anymore, is beginning to flex its muscle by openly siding with our enemies. In short, they are both working in concert against the MAIN ENEMY...namely, the US, the West(although Western Europe is so morally bankrupt they have no idea they are being boiled slowly like a frog). Sooner or later the Russians and the Red Chinese will no longer be able to conceal their true intentions...that's when all hell breaks loose.
The Russians are famously xenophobic, and now the Chinese have morphed into the new Mongol Horde. This will be a very antsy alliance to say the least, because it's like going to dinner with your worst neighbor and wondering if your food is being poisoned.
I wrote the DRAGON'S FURY SERIES to warn about just this possibility.
Yeah that crossed my mind for a story I was going to write at one time. I just did not have the time to write one novel much less a whole series though.
PONDER THIS...
“ All warfare is based on deception. Therefore, when capable, feign incapacity; when active, inactivity. When near, make it appear that you are far away; when far away, that you are near. Offer the enemy a bait to lure him; feign disorder and strike him. When he concentrates, prepare against him; where he is strong, avoid him. Anger his general and confuse him. Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. Keep him under strain and wear him down. When he is united, divide him. Attack where he is unprepared; sally out when he does not expect you. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme skill… Disrupt his alliances…Therefore I say: “[If you] know the enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles you will never be in peril. When you are ignorant of the enemy but know yourself, you chances of winning or losing are equal; if ignorant of both your enemy and yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril.”
SUN TZU, The Art of War, Oxford University Press Edition (also published in the Soviet Union in 1950, in Germany in 1957; also published by the East German Ministry of Defense and was prescribed for study in the East German military academies; it was published in China in 1957, 1958, and 1959, and Moa was known to be influenced by the book in his conduct of the civil war.)
Most Americans swallow disinformation as readily as if it was their favorite Candy. Our government is almost as capable as Russia in feeding it to us.
I have one thing to remind us of - COSCO - ready and waiting!
I'm so happy they want to get along. I mean think what it will do for global stability. [/sarcasm]
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