[ohioWfan]

You know, he LOVES this stuff......you can see it in his face.

I'm glad he's getting out among the people to talk about his SS plan.

There's no way anyone would know what it was if it were left to the media.....

[radiohead]

There's no way anyone would know what it was if it were left to the media.....

Did you hear what Rush said today? GWB is taking his message to the people. Let them decide. The Dim leadership (kind of an oxymoron) had its picture taken in front of FDR's statue - Dims playing to their willing accomplices in the media. No ideas, no discussion of varying points of view, just a picture of a bunch of socialists and a statue of their socialist hero.

Like they say on Star Trek, 'They're dead, Jim.'

[snugs]

I agree O Reilly was talking about the English system and how that had got in a mess a few years back and basically what he described I could not recognize what I know happens in the UK.

We still get a State Pension but it is not earnings related, we then tax relief to take out a private plan as well. What he was saying to me was completely a different issue and basically the insurance companies selling the insurance incorrectly which now has been regulated and should not happen again. It happen at the same time purely because of the earnings related aspect coming off our state pensions and more people wanted to take a private pension out but was a completely separate thing from the state pension which still exists.