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A rising star even Microsoft can't snuff out
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | February 03, 2005 | Gregory M. Lamb

Posted on 02/02/2005 4:43:50 PM PST by Dubya

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To: antidisestablishment; All
XML is at least being used effectively for data transfer on both intranet and internet sites to some degree. CSS is a clunker, well not reaching potential, much like solar. In theory, an entire Website is CSS codable, that being the whole point of CSS but is a nightmare or impossible to implement, I tried on straightforward site and it wasn't working correctly. I am using IE 5 for Mac and even that is unreliable.
Have you ever completed or tried an entire Website, jeez even a single page that works across browsers? Part of the problem, is the variance in display resolutions, I have found.
61 posted on 02/02/2005 6:03:42 PM PST by olde north church (Powerful is the hand that holds the keys to Heaven.)
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To: Cicero
Internet Explorer works fine for me.

Obviously either someone who has never used tabbed browsing, or a Microsoft stockholder.

62 posted on 02/02/2005 6:07:42 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Dubya
As much as FireFox is in the spotlight nowadays, it's still just an internet browser and distributed hypertext rendering engine and desktop widget. The real rising star is the Linux operating system that outright cuts the Microsoft umbilical cord and makes such things as nifty browsers with popup blocking options, adware and spyware removers, frequent virus detection sweeps, fiddling with personal firewall settings, and other routine security tasks windows users hate but tolerate a moot issue. Linux is easy to lock down to a minimum of required tasks and services that make policing the system much easier. As much as it's existence is hailed as a blow to the hegemony of Microsoft, the "killer app" ain't FireFox, it's Linux. FireFox running on Linux. Now there's a worthy combination.
63 posted on 02/02/2005 6:10:03 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: TWohlford

Huh? Perhaps you responded to the wrong post?


64 posted on 02/02/2005 6:11:50 PM PST by StoneGiant
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To: Doohickey

Doo,

The proper reply to such an article is:

Last month called they want their headline back..


65 posted on 02/02/2005 6:16:28 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Dubya

Has anyone produced a FF extension that supports the rich text capability (or whatever you call it) of Yahoo Mail?

The killer feature of FF is the tabbed browsing capability (with an added Clone-Window extension that propagates history to the new page). This greatly cuts down on window clutter.


66 posted on 02/02/2005 6:17:02 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: since1868

you should have added the speedups that were posted here at
FR. firefox *rocks*


67 posted on 02/02/2005 6:25:14 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Ben Chad
eWebMail Color and Grapics 1.3 extension for Firefox does that for Yahoo mail and Hotmail.
68 posted on 02/02/2005 6:28:56 PM PST by Eagle9
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To: Mad Mammoth
IE starts up faster than FF because Microsoft preloads major chunks of IE (its already occupying memory, whether you call it up or not... you pay for this every time you start windows whether you use IE or not)
69 posted on 02/02/2005 6:31:11 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Dubya
"While we think IE is the choice of hundreds of millions of people and businesses around the world because of the unique value it provides,(and because it's forced on the user and can't be removed without third party programs and even then there's serious risk of breaking the OS) we certainly respect that some customers will choose alternative browsers," a Microsoft spokesperson says. "Microsoft continues to make significant investments in IE...."(only because of the adverse publicity of being hammered by viruses and trojans, etc. Remember, we abandoned IE, and said IE6 was the last version).

You gotta love those corporate spinmeisters. Reminds me of that moron who fronted ConEd during Three Mile Island.

70 posted on 02/02/2005 6:31:44 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Ben Chad

Here you go:

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/lofiversion/index.php/t1648.html

Works with Hotmail too. Doesn't do the smilie faces, however.


71 posted on 02/02/2005 6:33:50 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Ben Chad
Has anyone produced a FF extension that supports the rich text capability (or whatever you call it) of Yahoo Mail?

Yes! there is an extension (or if you prefer, ad-on) called eWebmail Color and Graphics. That should do you nicely.

72 posted on 02/02/2005 6:33:50 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Eagle9

I see you beat me to the post. Try this site, if you haven't already. The Mozilla update site is still sorta under construction, and from what I've gathered at the Mozilla forum, some extension and theme writers have abandoned it for the moment.

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/lofiversion/index.php/

(The latest extension is at 1.6)

http://patsis.brownhost.com/extxpi.html#ewebmail


73 posted on 02/02/2005 6:39:54 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: All

If you think open source software is neat, wait until we get open source manufacturing.


74 posted on 02/02/2005 6:52:10 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: Chong
We used MS Word to create a webpage for our local fire station and posted some jpg photos and forms.

And if you take a look at the code behind MS Word-generated pages, you'll see exactly why IE doesn't play nice with them. It's some of the most arcane page code I've ever seen, and it makes all the extra crap added by MS FrontPage look clean and sleek.

75 posted on 02/02/2005 6:55:18 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Thanks! I've definitely noticed the 'under construction' constant changes.
76 posted on 02/02/2005 6:55:40 PM PST by Eagle9
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To: FierceDraka
wait until we get open source manufacturing.

We're already there. Go out to your garage and look under the hood of your car. You can see everything they put there. Go to AutoZone and purchase a 3rd-party repair manual. How can you do this? The manufacturing designs are all open for anyone to look at.

77 posted on 02/02/2005 7:02:42 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: N3WBI3

LOL! If you don't mind, I'll use that!


78 posted on 02/02/2005 7:06:31 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: since1868

The only reason I don't like FF is because you have to go through and install all of the plug-ins manually.

I like it better than IE because most of the viruses out there are designed to attack IE, at least for now.


79 posted on 02/02/2005 7:19:42 PM PST by Dr. Marten (Xin Nian Kuai le! - - Cong Xi Fa Cai!)
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To: Dubya

MS will either copy or buy FF.


80 posted on 02/02/2005 7:25:51 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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