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Rumsfeld Backs Nuclear Bunker Buster Bomb To Hit Iran Atom Sites
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-2-2005 | Francis Harris

Posted on 02/01/2005 5:45:46 PM PST by blam

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To: lavrenti

Rummy is the man for the job


41 posted on 02/01/2005 6:29:54 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: lavrenti

You know..much of the stuff Tom Clancy wrote has come to pass..COuld we see the scene where the JDAM takes out the house of the Iranian cleric, live, on worldwife TV?..


42 posted on 02/01/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Theoretically, yes.

We've been driving the Iranians crazy with all these head fakes. Fun to watch go ape over "UFOs".


43 posted on 02/01/2005 6:43:19 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: lavrenti

IMHO, I think the ONLY reason we haven't done Iran yet, asidew froim the possibility that the peopel might rise up themselves first, is that we honestly haven't figured out if we should do Syria first..Easy aregument to make, given how the terrorists have a haven there, and cross at will into Iraq. If we took out Syria tomorrow, you have to figure the Iranians would go nuts..launch everything at Israel..therefore, the Israelis would go FIRST..


44 posted on 02/01/2005 6:47:46 PM PST by ken5050
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To: blam
We ought to go ahead with this "weapon of precision destruction."

The argument that we shouldn't develop "usable" nukes because we might be tempted to use them goes all the way back to the anti-nuclear debates of the 1980s. It was wrong then, and hasn't improved any since. I disposed of this argument in my 1988 book A FIGHTING CHANCE - THE MORAL USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Unfortunately, long since out of print.

45 posted on 02/01/2005 6:47:56 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: blam
The Don and Condi are my two favorites in this administration, not counting the President of course.
46 posted on 02/01/2005 6:55:19 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: ken5050; Publius
I acknowledge that this is probably a staged Leak but IMO there are other ways to do it without also alerting certain elements at home to step up demands for disclosure and attempts at prohibition of this effort (I'm sure Teddy or other Dems would love to interfere).

I would much prefer a leak to the appropriate intelligence structures so that the message is delivered without the PUBLIC involvement. That is why I am unhappy about this method of leaking - IMO it can ultimately work against the objective of permitting the leak in the first place.

47 posted on 02/01/2005 6:56:21 PM PST by drt1
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To: ken5050

I think the Syrians can be held off by some wet work by our pals the Kurds and whatever mischief that can be made in Lebanon. Remember, Syria is run by a dreary incomp who may get his throat cut eventually by a teed-off general.

I think we're treading quietly regarding Iran, making efforts to encourage the opposition and sow mucho doubt in their military and civilian leadership.


48 posted on 02/01/2005 7:08:41 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: blam

Heh! That wild and crazy guy, Donny Rumsfeld.


49 posted on 02/01/2005 7:09:43 PM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: blam

Go for it...Use it on NK.


50 posted on 02/01/2005 7:14:54 PM PST by meema
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To: doug from upland

And now that I think of it, how about those neutron thingys that Jimma' cancelled some 30 yars ago.


51 posted on 02/01/2005 7:19:17 PM PST by meema
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To: meema

The neutron bomb wouldn't have been able to do anything to the bunkers.


52 posted on 02/01/2005 7:20:50 PM PST by doug from upland (THE RED STATES - celebrate a great American tradition)
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To: blam

My opinion on nuclear weapon production has always been that America has to do what America has to do, nomatter how unpleasant. If the production of certain types of powerful ballistic warheads will deter Iran from taking any rash, violent actions against America in the future than there is absolutely no reason that we should be hesitant to take such an action. From The Cold War battle against the Soviet Union to our current brinksmanship with the banana-brained dictator of North Korea, from Pres. John Kennedy to Pres. Ronald Reagan and beyond, Americas superior nuclear capabilities have been crucial to protecting our lives and interests from the attacks of governments with lesser nuclear capabilities and evil wills.

Yes, go for it Rumsfeld. It may be a grim reality, but we must meet it with all we've got for the safety of future generations to come. We will do what we have to do.

Side note: But Lord how I hate nukes. I sometimes curse the otherwise vastly beneficial scientific excellence of mankind for creating the bastard child of our good deeds, with the power to kill the entire world now in our own hands. Nukes are like a test God has given mankind so that we can finally figure out the wages of our inhumanity, which dates back to Cain and Able. Unlike liberals, however, my hatred of nuclear weapons is tempered by my realistic thought; we can't put the genie back in the bottle again, so the only way to protect ourself from that genie is to rub the lamp first, and hardest. May we never be forced to use nukes again, but may we be prepared to do so if absolutely necessary.


53 posted on 02/01/2005 7:28:56 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: blam
It was the threat of Star WArs, space warfare, and missile defense that broke the Soviet Union's back.

And, it might well be the threat of unrestrained destruction of their millitary capability that will break the backs of the world's last remaining a--holes, Iran and North Korea.

54 posted on 02/01/2005 8:28:11 PM PST by tom h
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To: BigSkyFreeper

He can always say "Whoops! Shi'ite happens!" Nothing like a little turban renewal.


55 posted on 02/02/2005 11:49:58 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

LOL!


56 posted on 02/02/2005 11:57:05 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Nuclear winter will also offset global warming...


57 posted on 02/02/2005 11:58:44 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

>"Whoops! Shi'ite happens!" Nothing like a little turban renewal.<

LOL BIGTIME!!!


58 posted on 02/02/2005 12:01:57 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Paperdoll

Rumsfeld is "The Turbanator"..


59 posted on 02/02/2005 5:32:41 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty




That's nearly as funny as your screen name. (:>)


60 posted on 02/02/2005 7:44:34 PM PST by Paperdoll (GO ROSSI!!!!!)
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