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Rumsfeld Backs Nuclear Bunker Buster Bomb To Hit Iran Atom Sites
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-2-2005 | Francis Harris

Posted on 02/01/2005 5:45:46 PM PST by blam

Rumsfeld backs nuclear bunker bomb to hit Iran atom sites

By Francis Harris in Washington
(Filed: 02/02/2005)

The Pentagon wants to revive a controversial programme to build nuclear warheads capable of penetrating hardened underground targets such as Iran's covert nuclear facilities.

A leaked memo from Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, to the energy department proposed funding for the scheme to begin next year. "You can count on my support for your efforts to revitalise the nuclear weapons infrastructure and to complete the RNEP (robust nuclear earth penetrator) study," Mr Rumsfeld wrote in a memo seen by the Washington Post.

The leak seems certain to trigger a major row with Congress, which eliminated the scheme from the budget last year.

That decision was made at the behest of Republican legislators angered by estimates suggesting the programme would cost more than $500 million (£265 million). The Bush administration has long emphasised that the scheme is merely a question of research and that Congress would have to approve the production of such weapons.

Democrats too were outraged, arguing that programmes to improve nuclear weapons made their use more likely and undermined US efforts to halt the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in other countries. The Arms Control Association, a pressure group which has opposed the bunker-buster scheme, said: "The administration is missing a key opportunity to make good on the congressional decision last year... it sends the wrong signal to the international community on the US approach on non-proliferation."

The US military has been studying bunker-busting weapons with renewed vigour since the September 11 attacks.

Osama bin Laden is believed to favour underground caves as a hiding place and used the Tora Bora network in the mountains of Afghanistan when he fled US-led forces in late 2001.

At the time, the Americans used the so-called Daisy Cutter, at 15,000lb the world's largest conventional bomb but still a thousand time less powerful than the weapon used at Hiroshima.

That has turned military minds back to the nuclear options, not least because the American military may one day be asked to launch raids against Iranian facilities.

The Americans believe the Iranians are working on building nuclear warheads despite Teheran's denials. The Islamic regime is also working on medium-range missiles capable of reaching Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and US forces in the Middle East.

Other longer-range missiles capable of reaching Europe are also being developed, the Americans believe.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atom; backs; bomb; bunker; bunkerbuster; hit; iran; nuclear; rumsfeld; site
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To: lavrenti

Rummy is the man for the job


41 posted on 02/01/2005 6:29:54 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: lavrenti

You know..much of the stuff Tom Clancy wrote has come to pass..COuld we see the scene where the JDAM takes out the house of the Iranian cleric, live, on worldwife TV?..


42 posted on 02/01/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Theoretically, yes.

We've been driving the Iranians crazy with all these head fakes. Fun to watch go ape over "UFOs".


43 posted on 02/01/2005 6:43:19 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: lavrenti

IMHO, I think the ONLY reason we haven't done Iran yet, asidew froim the possibility that the peopel might rise up themselves first, is that we honestly haven't figured out if we should do Syria first..Easy aregument to make, given how the terrorists have a haven there, and cross at will into Iraq. If we took out Syria tomorrow, you have to figure the Iranians would go nuts..launch everything at Israel..therefore, the Israelis would go FIRST..


44 posted on 02/01/2005 6:47:46 PM PST by ken5050
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To: blam
We ought to go ahead with this "weapon of precision destruction."

The argument that we shouldn't develop "usable" nukes because we might be tempted to use them goes all the way back to the anti-nuclear debates of the 1980s. It was wrong then, and hasn't improved any since. I disposed of this argument in my 1988 book A FIGHTING CHANCE - THE MORAL USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Unfortunately, long since out of print.

45 posted on 02/01/2005 6:47:56 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: blam
The Don and Condi are my two favorites in this administration, not counting the President of course.
46 posted on 02/01/2005 6:55:19 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: ken5050; Publius
I acknowledge that this is probably a staged Leak but IMO there are other ways to do it without also alerting certain elements at home to step up demands for disclosure and attempts at prohibition of this effort (I'm sure Teddy or other Dems would love to interfere).

I would much prefer a leak to the appropriate intelligence structures so that the message is delivered without the PUBLIC involvement. That is why I am unhappy about this method of leaking - IMO it can ultimately work against the objective of permitting the leak in the first place.

47 posted on 02/01/2005 6:56:21 PM PST by drt1
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To: ken5050

I think the Syrians can be held off by some wet work by our pals the Kurds and whatever mischief that can be made in Lebanon. Remember, Syria is run by a dreary incomp who may get his throat cut eventually by a teed-off general.

I think we're treading quietly regarding Iran, making efforts to encourage the opposition and sow mucho doubt in their military and civilian leadership.


48 posted on 02/01/2005 7:08:41 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: blam

Heh! That wild and crazy guy, Donny Rumsfeld.


49 posted on 02/01/2005 7:09:43 PM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: blam

Go for it...Use it on NK.


50 posted on 02/01/2005 7:14:54 PM PST by meema
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To: doug from upland

And now that I think of it, how about those neutron thingys that Jimma' cancelled some 30 yars ago.


51 posted on 02/01/2005 7:19:17 PM PST by meema
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To: meema

The neutron bomb wouldn't have been able to do anything to the bunkers.


52 posted on 02/01/2005 7:20:50 PM PST by doug from upland (THE RED STATES - celebrate a great American tradition)
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To: blam

My opinion on nuclear weapon production has always been that America has to do what America has to do, nomatter how unpleasant. If the production of certain types of powerful ballistic warheads will deter Iran from taking any rash, violent actions against America in the future than there is absolutely no reason that we should be hesitant to take such an action. From The Cold War battle against the Soviet Union to our current brinksmanship with the banana-brained dictator of North Korea, from Pres. John Kennedy to Pres. Ronald Reagan and beyond, Americas superior nuclear capabilities have been crucial to protecting our lives and interests from the attacks of governments with lesser nuclear capabilities and evil wills.

Yes, go for it Rumsfeld. It may be a grim reality, but we must meet it with all we've got for the safety of future generations to come. We will do what we have to do.

Side note: But Lord how I hate nukes. I sometimes curse the otherwise vastly beneficial scientific excellence of mankind for creating the bastard child of our good deeds, with the power to kill the entire world now in our own hands. Nukes are like a test God has given mankind so that we can finally figure out the wages of our inhumanity, which dates back to Cain and Able. Unlike liberals, however, my hatred of nuclear weapons is tempered by my realistic thought; we can't put the genie back in the bottle again, so the only way to protect ourself from that genie is to rub the lamp first, and hardest. May we never be forced to use nukes again, but may we be prepared to do so if absolutely necessary.


53 posted on 02/01/2005 7:28:56 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: blam
It was the threat of Star WArs, space warfare, and missile defense that broke the Soviet Union's back.

And, it might well be the threat of unrestrained destruction of their millitary capability that will break the backs of the world's last remaining a--holes, Iran and North Korea.

54 posted on 02/01/2005 8:28:11 PM PST by tom h
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To: BigSkyFreeper

He can always say "Whoops! Shi'ite happens!" Nothing like a little turban renewal.


55 posted on 02/02/2005 11:49:58 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

LOL!


56 posted on 02/02/2005 11:57:05 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Nuclear winter will also offset global warming...


57 posted on 02/02/2005 11:58:44 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

>"Whoops! Shi'ite happens!" Nothing like a little turban renewal.<

LOL BIGTIME!!!


58 posted on 02/02/2005 12:01:57 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Paperdoll

Rumsfeld is "The Turbanator"..


59 posted on 02/02/2005 5:32:41 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty




That's nearly as funny as your screen name. (:>)


60 posted on 02/02/2005 7:44:34 PM PST by Paperdoll (GO ROSSI!!!!!)
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