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Families flee school's sinking scores 'Underperforming' label exacerbates problem in Concord
sfgate/SF chronicle ^ | Tuesday, February 1, 2005 | Carrie Sturrock, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 02/01/2005 12:17:40 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod

Oak Grove Middle School has low state test scores, and for many parents -- and teachers -- that's all they need to know.

It doesn't matter that the Concord school once was honored as a California Distinguished School and has classes for gifted and talented students, a state-of-the-art technology program and even a psychologist on campus to support the kids.

What matters is that widely publicized state test scores and the federal No Child Left Behind Act have labeled the school underperforming, giving parents a reason to leave. Enrollment has dropped from 915 last year to 750, and the parents of another 180 students have requested transfers by the fall. The act also has figured in the loss of 40 teachers in recent years, Principal Lorie O'Brien said.

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"I'm not prejudiced, (but) the school became English-as-a-second-language, " she said. "You would be taking my kids from a great environment to a ghetto environment where they're struggling with other needs ... The test scores at Oak Grove are terrible."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: nochildleftbehind; schools
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Hmm I had plenty of immigrants in my schools...Indians, Asians. Heavy accents, only spoke english for a couple years...yet the did great in all their classes and within a couple years of moving here their parents were buying houses. Wonder why some immigrants can't figure it out. (no I dont)
1 posted on 02/01/2005 12:17:43 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Makes me wonder how "outstanding" they really were before accountability standards were imposed.


2 posted on 02/01/2005 12:20:04 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: KneelBeforeZod
"What matters is that widely publicized state test scores and the federal No Child Left Behind Act have labeled the school underperforming"

I love how the writer, who I gamble would NEVER portray any kind of criticism of US actions in Iraq as leading to any actions that would harm our soldiers, seems to be saying that labelling these schools honestly is a bad thing because it stigmatizes them.

3 posted on 02/01/2005 12:21:39 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Our next Democrat nominee for president: http://drudgereport.com/hrcfl.jpg)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
It doesn't matter that the Concord school once was honored as a California Distinguished School

And I could once wear size 32 Levis. So what.

4 posted on 02/01/2005 12:22:13 PM PST by skip_intro
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To: anniegetyourgun

Should have spent more on good teachers and fired the psychologist.


5 posted on 02/01/2005 12:22:51 PM PST by mammer
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To: KneelBeforeZod

I grew up in Concord/Walnut Creek in the 60s. When I visited the area last year I did not recognise it!


6 posted on 02/01/2005 12:23:01 PM PST by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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It doesn't matter that the Concord school once was honored as a California Distinguished School and has classes for gifted and talented students, a state-of-the-art technology program and even a psychologist on campus to support the kids.

The psychologist on campus should have been enough warning!

7 posted on 02/01/2005 12:23:04 PM PST by technomage
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Is it the immigrants who can't figure it out or is it the race pimps who are trying to build up a constituancy?

I don't know whether English immersion or part English/part native language instruction is best for the first couple of years here is the best way. The race pimps "teach them in Spanish until they can get jobs as maids and gardeners" is far worse than the other two.

8 posted on 02/01/2005 12:23:23 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

We have the same problem in Memphis. A lot of the problem lies with the leadership in this city.


9 posted on 02/01/2005 12:23:50 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: mammer

LOL so true !!!


10 posted on 02/01/2005 12:23:54 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
That's what NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND means! We wil leave no child behind in these underperforming school systems. So, THEY ARE LEAVING!...........simple enough, even a Californian can understand it......
11 posted on 02/01/2005 12:24:58 PM PST by Red Badger (FReepers: Ever Vigilant, Ever Diligent........)
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To: skip_intro
And I could once wear size 32 Levis. So what.

I still can..........on one leg......

12 posted on 02/01/2005 12:26:19 PM PST by Red Badger (FReepers: Ever Vigilant, Ever Diligent........)
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To: mammer

Sadly, most districts have school psychologists. Talk to any psychologist and they'll tell you, it's one of those jobs which is looked down upon most by those in that profession. Every profession has these bottom-of-the-barrel jobs that others in the profession hope they never have to take.


13 posted on 02/01/2005 12:28:35 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: skip_intro

I went to a HS that was a California Distinguished School... We were tops within 50 miles in SATs, state tests and admits to top schools.

Then a few years later, one of the sketchiest schools in town got the same designation...thats when I knew it had become one of those "berets for the whole army" type programs.


14 posted on 02/01/2005 12:29:13 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

"Some immigrants can't figure it out" because the PC crowd that runs the public school system holds their kids in ESL classes for years upon years. They spend half of every school day in another classroom, away from the mainstream and their native English-speaking peers. And many of the ESL teachers and staff, beyond speaking Spanglish, are NOT subject matter experts. Thus their core subject learning lags and the test scores fall. ESL is a recipe for failure, imho.

BTW- I adopted two non-English speaking kids, mainstreamed them into PreK within 6 weeks, and they were right up there with their peers within two months. Now after 2 years they are more fluent in English and their vocabulary is richer than most of their peers.

Ever notice that most well-learned folks, like diplomats and military officers abroad, when they want their kids to perform in a non-native langauge- go with total immersion and the kids handle it just fine?


15 posted on 02/01/2005 12:30:18 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Yeah, your points are basically what I sent to the author of this article...

ESL classes are just a way for democrats to control more people (in their minds)

It will take years of failure before the dems stop promoting that crap. Then they'll just abondon it and say repubs caused it to fail


16 posted on 02/01/2005 12:33:29 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: BullDog108

I live in Concord and Monument Street is called little Mexico. I won't even stop at a store around there because the street and parking lots are filled with guys loitering.
Also, the police were stopped from stopping anyone in that neighborhood for expired tags because they were accused of racism.


17 posted on 02/01/2005 12:38:16 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I don't like this touchy feely no child left behind crap. It disappoints me that Bush would promote such garbage.

I want to see the Children who strive for academic excellence get ahead, the rest fall back ACT that gets Government out of Education so that competition can get back in.

18 posted on 02/01/2005 12:42:32 PM PST by Jason_b
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Many of the highest performing students at our local high school are immigrants.


19 posted on 02/01/2005 12:44:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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"As a result... lose per-pupil funding and the benefits of parents with the time and resources to get involved."

"Sometimes the better-educated parents take advantage of the school choice option."

There's a pattern there...parents...involved...educated... If I were planning to move to Mexico, you can make dang sure I would have my children learning Spanish before we moved, not just dumping them off and expecting the school to teach them.

20 posted on 02/01/2005 12:47:30 PM PST by JustRight
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