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Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
Arutz Sheva ^ | February 1, 2005 | Arutz Sheva

Posted on 02/01/2005 5:52:21 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice says that disengagement from Gush Katif and northern Shomron is fine, but only as a first step towards a full-fledged PLO state.

Rice met with Prime Minister Sharon's top aide Dov Weisglass in Washington on Monday. She explained to him the U.S. position that the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza is acceptable only as a prelude to the full Road Map plan proposed by President Bush.

The Road Map plan calls for a "viable" - i.e., territorially-contiguous - Arab state in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Rice, as well, emphasized this point to Weisglass. This means that Gaza must be connected with a land-line to Judea, effectively dividing Israel in half, north and south of the Gaza-Hevron connection.

However, Associate Prime Minister Shimon Peres said today, "I think that she was not referring to a connection between Judea and Gaza, but rather to a connection between Judea and Samaria... We do have to ensure, however, that the [PA entity] will be able to effectively move goods between Gaza and Judea."

Prime Minister Sharon often says that the disengagement will help Israel strengthen its hold on five settlement blocs in Judea and Samaria. Nowhere, however, has US President Bush ever promised such support. In a letter to Sharon almost two years ago, Bush wrote only, "In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949..."

Rice's statements that the disengagement is only a first step further erodes Israeli hopes that the international community will approve extensive Israeli presence in the Biblical homeland areas it liberated in the Six Day War of 1967.

Secretary Rice is expected to arrive in Israel in the coming days. Upon assuming her post as Secretary of State last week, Rice said she sees the implementation of an arrangement in the Middle East a "personal objective."

Excerpts from the Road Map plan as issued by the U.S. Department of State on April 30, 2003: "A two state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will only be achieved through an end to violence and terrorism, when the Palestinian people have a leadership acting decisively against terror and willing and able to build a practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty, and through Israel's readiness to do what is necessary for a democratic Palestinian state to be established, and a clear, unambiguous acceptance by both parties of the goal of a negotiated settlement as described below. The Quartet will assist and facilitate implementation of the plan, starting in Phase I, including direct discussions between the parties as required. The plan establishes a realistic timeline for implementation. However, as a performance-based plan, progress will require and depend upon the good faith efforts of the parties, and their compliance with each of the obligations outlined below...

"A settlement, negotiated between the parties, will result in the emergence of an independent, democratic, and viable Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors...

"In Phase I, the Palestinians immediately undertake an unconditional cessation of violence according to the steps outlined below; such action should be accompanied by supportive measures undertaken by Israel... Israel also freezes all settlement activity, consistent with the Mitchell report. "* Palestinian leadership issues unequivocal statement reiterating Israel's right to exist in peace and security and calling for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire to end armed activity and all acts of violence against Israelis anywhere. All official Palestinian institutions end incitement against Israel. "* Israeli leadership issues unequivocal statement affirming its commitment to the two-state vision of an independent, viable, sovereign Palestinian state living in peace and security alongside Israel, as expressed by President Bush, and calling for an immediate end to violence against Palestinians everywhere. All official Israeli institutions end incitement against Palestinians. "* Palestinians declare an unequivocal end to violence and terrorism and undertake visible efforts on the ground to arrest, disrupt, and restrain individuals and groups conducting and planning violent attacks on Israelis anywhere. "* Israel immediately dismantles settlement outposts erected since March 2001. "* Consistent with the Mitchell Report, Israel freezes all settlement activity (including natural growth of settlements). "* [In the final stage,] Parties reach final and comprehensive permanent status agreement that ends the Israel-Palestinian conflict in 2005, through a settlement negotiated between the parties based on UNSCR 242, 338, and 1397, that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and includes an agreed, just, fair, and realistic solution to the refugee issue, and a negotiated resolution on the status of Jerusalem that takes into account the political and religious concerns of both sides, and protects the religious interests of Jews, Christians, and Muslims worldwide, and fulfills the vision of two states, Israel and sovereign, independent, democratic and viable Palestine, living side-by-side in peace and security. "* Arab state acceptance of full normal relations with Israel and security for all the states of the region in the context of a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasement; condeleezarice; drrice; gaza; israel; judea; pa; plo; roadmaptonothing; roadmaptopeace; samaria; shuckandjive
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Looks like our new Secretary of State will follow her predecessor's policies of undermining an ally to appease our enemies. Having a contiguous PLO state with a corridor cutting Israel in half - reminds me of another corridor during the 1919-39 period.
1 posted on 02/01/2005 5:52:23 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA
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To: Alouette; Salem; SJackson; IAF ThunderPilot; anotherview; American in Israel; Simcha7; Yehuda; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/01/2005 5:53:49 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

I was going to post a similar article but am at the end of my shift and did not want to comeback to a hundred replies.
I am interested to know people's thoughts on the matter though.


3 posted on 02/01/2005 5:54:31 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Condoleeza Rice - Colon Powell & Jimmy Carter, warmed over.


4 posted on 02/01/2005 5:57:22 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Convert from ECUSA

First things first.

The Palis are up to bat. If they strike out, again, for the millionth time, forget a Pali state.

The ball is in their court.

I, for one, am sick of anyone making demands on Israel to do anything further. The Palis have done nothing, and expect concession after concession.

Let's see if the terrorist Abbas means what he says first.


5 posted on 02/01/2005 5:59:16 AM PST by exit82 (Ted Kennedy--swimming in lies since 1969.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Condoleeza: Instant Idiot - Just add State Department!


6 posted on 02/01/2005 6:03:01 AM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: exit82
I, for one, am sick of anyone making demands on Israel to do anything further.

You are not alone. Israel has done enough. It's time for the other guys to step up to the plate (which I, frankly, do not expect to happen).

7 posted on 02/01/2005 6:07:45 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Convert from ECUSA

It's a show of words. Only a fool would undermine Israel, and there are no fools in the cabinet that I know of.


8 posted on 02/01/2005 6:11:22 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("What are you gonna believe, the media, or your own eyes?" -- Marx .............(Groucho))
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To: the invisib1e hand

I thought she wanted to **** over the Paleostinians.... What a dissapointment that was.... Maybe we should scrap the state department as it exists now, like they did with the War Department after WWII...


9 posted on 02/01/2005 6:28:53 AM PST by Schwaeky (and they will tremble again, at the sound of our silence..)
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10 posted on 02/01/2005 6:40:54 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SJackson

Ugggh. We all know that it isn't a partion of the land of Israel they are seeking.


11 posted on 02/01/2005 6:44:53 AM PST by hope (GOP: It gets the blue out.)
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To: exit82

"The Palis are up to bat. If they strike out, again, for the millionth time, forget a Pali state."

Right... so it's their last, last last, last, last, last chance.


12 posted on 02/01/2005 6:45:26 AM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria

Well, I see nuts have been added to Rice Krispies.
13 posted on 02/01/2005 6:50:48 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Convert from ECUSA

What God giveth, Bush taketh away??

Won't work.


14 posted on 02/01/2005 7:00:57 AM PST by Pylot
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To: Convert from ECUSA
This means that Gaza must be connected with a land-line to Judea, effectively dividing Israel in half, north and south of the Gaza-Hevron connection.

Back to Arafat's call (in the 1980s) for a divided "Palestinian" state, "with a corridor in between". Screw that idea, screw the so-called "roadmap", screw the idea of Arab control over two jaws of the vice, and screw Rice for offering it -- for that matter, Bush for telling her to do it, or giving it his imprimatur when she suggested it.
15 posted on 02/01/2005 7:29:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why are we even dictating to a soverign nation--who we are allied with, what their borders should be? Sounds pretty dumb to me...

Puck the Falestinians


16 posted on 02/01/2005 7:33:44 AM PST by Schwaeky (Islam is a Religion of Peace---AND THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!!!!)
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To: Schwaeky
I don't think it's in anyone's interest to ignore the Palestinians. I know some Palestinians, and trust me, they are not all Hamas.

If this administration were given to that sort of thing, it would belie a nature that lacks the sort of depth across the board that we expect, deserve and are thankful for (whether or not we agree with its every manuever).

Statesmanship ain't easy, cuz.

17 posted on 02/01/2005 7:56:33 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("What are you gonna believe, the media, or your own eyes?" -- Marx .............(Groucho))
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To: exit82
I, for one, am sick of anyone making demands on Israel to do anything further. The Palis have done nothing, and expect concession after concession.

This collective anyone making demands never expected anything from paliwogs as history shows.

18 posted on 02/01/2005 7:57:05 AM PST by Words
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19 posted on 02/01/2005 8:57:01 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: adam_az

:'D


20 posted on 02/01/2005 8:57:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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